Survivor 41 - Episode Discussion

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

When was the last time a female winner didn't play under the radar and win? Sarah? Michele? Natalie?

I feel like it's just harder for woman to be so openly cutthroat like men because they will get eliminated. So I don't know why anyone could hate on Erika's under the radar gameplay which wasn't even that under the radar at least to me but just edit wise

Has anyone read jury statements yet because I highly doubt Zander was seen as some joke they just preferred Erika

Has anyone read jury statements yet because I highly doubt Zander was seen as some joke they just preferred Erika

danny said in one his interviews that everyone saw Xander as a joke, not a threat and he stood no chance to win... so I would take his word over anyone watching  at home...

Has anyone read jury statements yet because I highly doubt Zander was seen as some joke they just preferred Erika

danny said in one his interviews that everyone saw Xander as a joke, not a threat and he stood no chance to win... so I would take his word over anyone watching  at home...

But you're ignoring what the other jurors said. 

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

Neither had a good game imo. Xander played really bad and Deshawn played too sloppy. 

Danny also voted for Deshawn so, even though Danny was my favorite during the season, his opinion means nothing at this point

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

Neither had a good game imo. Xander played really bad and Deshawn played too sloppy. 

Deshawn's game was far worse after the merge

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

Neither had a good game imo. Xander played really bad and Deshawn played too sloppy. 

Deshawn's game was far worse after the merge

Again both played bad games. Deshawn at least had moves he could point to. They were terrible moves that sunk his own game but that's more than Xander can say. At the end of the day he got a pity vote from the person he was closest to there so it's not really a big deal. 

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

Neither had a good game imo. Xander played really bad and Deshawn played too sloppy. 

Deshawn's game was far worse after the merge

Again both played bad games. Deshawn at least had moves he could point to. They were terrible moves that sunk his own game but that's more than Xander can say. At the end of the day he got a pity vote from the person he was closest to there so it's not really a big deal. 

As long as we're all finally acknowledging it was a pity vote 

Xander got exactly the number of votes he deserved. 

Deshawn got more than he deserved using the same logic

Erika clearly deserved the win but Xander was the second best player sitting in FTC.  The reason be deserved no votes, like Deshawn, is he took the best with him 

Neither had a good game imo. Xander played really bad and Deshawn played too sloppy. 

Deshawn's game was far worse after the merge

Again both played bad games. Deshawn at least had moves he could point to. They were terrible moves that sunk his own game but that's more than Xander can say. At the end of the day he got a pity vote from the person he was closest to there so it's not really a big deal. 

As long as we're all finally acknowledging it was a pity vote 

Who was saying otherwise? I didn't even mention deshawn in my orginalpost because  he wasn't relevant, nobody is saying how he was robbed

"bUT D3shaWn!!" Is what I'm gathering lol

The Darrell stan for starters believes Deshawn should have won. That's no different than those saying Xander should have won but people are trying to claim its because he's white. The best person should win.  That was Erika. Idiots will always be mad. 

Dont understand whats the problem of either Deshawn or Xander receiving votes, ****** Will Sims got a vote on ftc, both Neleh and Clay got 3,Phillip Sheppard got one too

Dont understand whats the problem of either Deshawn or Xander receiving votes, ****** Will Sims got a vote on ftc, both Neleh and Clay got 3,Phillip Sheppard got one too

And those were ridiculous as well

I'm curious what would have happened had Erika been sent to fire, I think it's fair to say she goes home unless she gets extremely lucky since apparently she was the worst of the 4 at making fire. 

Funny how the firemaking twist was introduced to save the male fan favorite but it actually may have gotten Erika the win. If it was a normal vote Erika probably gets voted out 4th?

Xander is the epitome of new school survivor since he failed at the social/strategy but made 1 flashy move and people think he played well 

Xander played a way better strategical game and social game than he's getting credit for. People are being biased because of his archetype. Had Xander been a POC female the same Vevmo fans would be calling it the greatest game of all time.

Xander is the epitome of new school survivor since he failed at the social/strategy but made 1 flashy move and people think he played well 

Xander played a way better strategical game and social game than he's getting credit for. People are being biased because of his archetype. Had Xander been a POC female the same Vevmo fans would be calling it the greatest game of all time.

Xander lost the game the same way Dean did last season, he made a few moves and didn't play bad but he jad no agency on the jury

Xander is the epitome of new school survivor since he failed at the social/strategy but made 1 flashy move and people think he played well 

Xander played a way better strategical game and social game than he's getting credit for. People are being biased because of his archetype. Had Xander been a POC female the same Vevmo fans would be calling it the greatest game of all time.

false. had xander been a poc female he wouldve never been allowed to coast with a known idol in his pocket. he wouldnt be allowed to play the same. 

Funny how the firemaking twist was introduced to save the male fan favorite but it actually may have gotten Erika the win. If it was a normal vote Erika probably gets voted out 4th?

This is proof Probst has no idea what he's doing. It worked the first couple seasons giving Ben & Wendell wins they normally wouldn't have gotten but the players have since adapted and the massive threats are being voted out much earlier, such as Christian coming 7th in 37, Kelley coming 10th in 38, and this season with Shan coming 8th. It's common sense too, with f4 fire, idols good until 5 and the possibility of winning immunity or another random advantage at 6 or 7 you'd be an idiot to let a really good player slip past much farther than the final 8 or so. Makes it easier for players like Erika, Tommy & Adam who have great social games and target management to come out on top

Xander is the epitome of new school survivor since he failed at the social/strategy but made 1 flashy move and people think he played well 

Xander played a way better strategical game and social game than he's getting credit for. People are being biased because of his archetype. Had Xander been a POC female the same Vevmo fans would be calling it the greatest game of all time.

false. had xander been a poc female he wouldve never been allowed to coast with a known idol in his pocket. he wouldnt be allowed to play the same. 

What is this insane comment based on?

xander was supposed to be this comp beast but has the same amount of immunity wins as erika... I...

Heather said she didn't know Xanders game especially pre-merge and she was shocked when she saw it play out on TV and asked why he didn't mention it at FTC and he said he never got a chance to bring it up since no one questioned it and they didn't do an intro or outro speech. Xander robbed

No matter who won this season they'd get an asterisk next to their name. It was a strategic game of Survivor it was a roll Jeff's dice of chance and see what happens. And the fact that only Queen Sydney used her shot in the dark is so wild to me. 

Xander is the epitome of new school survivor since he failed at the social/strategy but made 1 flashy move and people think he played well 

Xander played a way better strategical game and social game than he's getting credit for. People are being biased because of his archetype. Had Xander been a POC female the same Vevmo fans would be calling it the greatest game of all time.

he was on the wrong side of the vote almost every time hon. 

I own that may views could be jaded by the airtime and edit. I did not pay attention to majority of the season. It wasn't the same show I loved so it just became background noise.

They definitely overedited Xander for no reason especially being a 0 vote finalist 

Erika deserved to win but let's not pretend the jury always get it right.  Dani Reyes lost on Big Brother when she played arguably the best game ever.

Erika deserved to win but let's not pretend the jury always get it right.  Dani Reyes lost on Big Brother when she played arguably the best game ever.

Wasn't it bc on that season the jury got to watch the show prior to voting and that's why Dani lost bc they were bitter seeing the cutthroat things she did?