Behind the Screen: Survivor 41 - Episode Discussion

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Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting...

— Big_bananas_fan

Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting...

— timster3

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Survivor 41 - Episode Discussion

Big_bananas_fan ·

Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting. Other POC tryna make themselves the topic of convo and the usual racists saying what they have to say. But for now lemme shut up.

Hated Liana mall game until tonight. What a great tribal to go out on cause she looked stupid all season until tonight.

Can i just complain to hear what you have to say? 

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Big_bananas_fan#722

Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting. Other POC tryna make themselves the topic of convo and the usual racists saying what they have to say. But for now lemme shut up.

Hated Liana mall game until tonight. What a great tribal to go out on cause she looked stupid all season until tonight.

Can i just complain to hear what you have to say? 

timster3#723

Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting. Other POC tryna make themselves the topic of convo and the usual racists saying what they have to say. But for now lemme shut up.

Hated Liana mall game until tonight. What a great tribal to go out on cause she looked stupid all season until tonight.

Can i just complain to hear what you have to say? 

That tribal topic was about black people feeling like they represent something bigger especially after BLM movement. It was about black people knowing they're viewed in a negative light and their blackness is always going to be the first thing people judge about them. It was about wanting to be a positive representative to their community and not being portrayed in a negative light like in all other forms of media. This is hundreds of years of racism faced in this country and after 2020 this cast felt inspired to work together.

The usual yt racists were mad as expected. But this time Asians and Latinos were complaining about the black alliance voting out other POC and that they're hypocrites. Completely missing the point of the topic it was about BLACK PEOPLE. BLACK AND POC ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. THEY EXPERIENCE VERY DIFFERENT STRUGGLES AND ERIKA/NASEER/RICARD WERE NOT NECESSARY TO THAT PARTICULAR CONVERSATION OR ALLIANCE. THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR IT WAS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE... PERIOD.

Big_bananas_fan#724

Imma wait for someone to complain about the black alliance before I say what I have to say. Twitter and Reddit is exhausting. Other POC tryna make themselves the topic of convo and the usual racists saying what they have to say. But for now lemme shut up.

Hated Liana mall game until tonight. What a great tribal to go out on cause she looked stupid all season until tonight.

Can i just complain to hear what you have to say? 

That tribal topic was about black people feeling like they represent something bigger especially after BLM movement. It was about black people knowing they're viewed in a negative light and their blackness is always going to be the first thing people judge about them. It was about wanting to be a positive representative to their community and not being portrayed in a negative light like in all other forms of media. This is hundreds of years of racism faced in this country and after 2020 this cast felt inspired to work together.

The usual yt racists were mad as expected. But this time Asians and Latinos were complaining about the black alliance voting out other POC and that they're hypocrites. Completely missing the point of the topic it was about BLACK PEOPLE. BLACK AND POC ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE. THEY EXPERIENCE VERY DIFFERENT STRUGGLES AND ERIKA/NASEER/RICARD WERE NOT NECESSARY TO THAT PARTICULAR CONVERSATION OR ALLIANCE. THEY MADE IT VERY CLEAR IT WAS ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE... PERIOD.

Just finished the episode and just wanted to say that i fully agree with you, i make mine Xander's words

Flopnanas#725

deshawn and danny really didnt need to vote out shan last week... it was too early. Now they dont have the numbers advantage and lost another member tonight.

kvm1977#726

Ok. I thought this season was turning around and getting good but of course that means here comes Probst with a twist to ruin it. STOP RUINING THE GAME AND MAKING IT A GAME OF CHANCE, MAKE IT A STRATEGIC GAME! So annoyed. I despise creepyass Probst.

To be fair there is strategy in both.  There strategy in playing or sitting out and, even though it worked out, statistically Deshawn made a huge mistake by not switching boxes.   Still hate the twist but there's still strategy involved.

Seasons_Alive#727

Ok. I thought this season was turning around and getting good but of course that means here comes Probst with a twist to ruin it. STOP RUINING THE GAME AND MAKING IT A GAME OF CHANCE, MAKE IT A STRATEGIC GAME! So annoyed. I despise creepyass Probst.

So glad all the twists are failing. When the Do or Die twist was spoiled months ago, it was mentioned as a coin flip so at least I didn't have to watch a 50/50 chance, instead we watch 33% woo (sarcasm).

ChampionDarrell#728

Haven't finished it yet but this may be one of the worst episodes I've seen all season.

Wavemoon#729

This is unbearable with twists, I think this would have been a mid tier season had Jeff sat there smiled and let them play 

mariochristopher__#730

I will never guess why my girl Liana aint play the show in the dark, all signs literally pointed her towards it she had nothing to lose smh.

Challenge 17#731

Honestly they all should have just not competed that would have been so funny

anon12423452355...#732
To be fair there is strategy in both.  There strategy in playing or sitting out and, even though it worked out, statistically Deshawn made a huge mistake by not switching boxes.   Still hate the twist but there's still strategy involved.

Agreed there was strategy with the decision making, but I still hate that his fate ended in chance. I just want them to play the game and not turn it into the weird board game of just drawing cards to see what happens. I don't get how he should have statistically switched boxes.

anon12423452355...#733

Honestly they all should have just not competed that would have been so funny

That was my thought.

anon12423452355...#734

I will never guess why my girl Liana aint play the show in the dark, all signs literally pointed her towards it she had nothing to lose smh.

I thought the SAME thing. I hope they ask her in the post game, literally made zero sense not to play it. Guess Sydney is the only legend not afraid to take chances!

Aspiring#735

deshawn and danny really didnt need to vote out shan last week... it was too early. Now they dont have the numbers advantage and lost another member tonight.

Ricard played them and they fell for it. Now they're gonna suffer the consequences.

Seasons_Alive#736

I will never guess why my girl Liana aint play the show in the dark, all signs literally pointed her towards it she had nothing to lose smh.

If she didn't know Xander was using his extra vote. If Liana lost her vote, and Erika flipped, it would've been a tie between her and Ricard. She was probably hoping Erika would straight flip and it be 4-3 on Ricard to go.

KChallenge10#737

deshawn and danny really didnt need to vote out shan last week... it was too early. Now they dont have the numbers advantage and lost another member tonight.

Yup and now will look like fools while Ricard or Xander win. I'll be very surprised if one of them don't win because they'll ride immunity wins and numbers advantage til the end.  

Sad to see Liana go. 

TwoStrikes#738

how does xander still have an idol and nobody is talking about it 

kvm1977#739

To be fair there is strategy in both.  There strategy in playing or sitting out and, even though it worked out, statistically Deshawn made a huge mistake by not switching boxes.   Still hate the twist but there's still strategy involved.

Agreed there was strategy with the decision making, but I still hate that his fate ended in chance. I just want them to play the game and not turn it into the weird board game of just drawing cards to see what happens. I don't get how he should have statistically switched boxes.

Because once the first box is revealed if you switch your odds increase to 66.6666% from 33.3333% because the a box was shown. It using statistics over gut. It's like game shows. If you're given the chance to switch after something is revealed statistically you always do it.

To be fair, it's math and most people would stick with their first option because if they switch they'd regret it. 

kvm1977#740

how does xander still have an idol and nobody is talking about it 

Because people make emotional decisions unfortunately 

kvm1977#741

To be fair there is strategy in both.  There strategy in playing or sitting out and, even though it worked out, statistically Deshawn made a huge mistake by not switching boxes.   Still hate the twist but there's still strategy involved.

Agreed there was strategy with the decision making, but I still hate that his fate ended in chance. I just want them to play the game and not turn it into the weird board game of just drawing cards to see what happens. I don't get how he should have statistically switched boxes.

Because once the first box is revealed if you switch your odds increase to 66.6666% from 33.3333% because the a box was shown. It using statistics over gut. It's like game shows. If you're given the chance to switch after something is revealed statistically you always do it.

To be fair, it's math and most people would stick with their first option because if they switch they'd regret it. 

Just remembered the movie 21 did a great job explaining it--skip to the 1 minute mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdjqtR2iK4

ChampionDarrell#742

deshawn and danny really didnt need to vote out shan last week... it was too early. Now they dont have the numbers advantage and lost another member tonight.

Yup and now will look like fools while Ricard or Xander win. I'll be very surprised if one of them don't win because they'll ride immunity wins and numbers advantage til the end.  

Sad to see Liana go. 

deshawn and danny would beat xander. 

Hauserman#743

The era of #Edgika has arrived, peasants.

flyguy#744

Liana for The Challenge

anon12423452355...#745

Liana for The Challenge

No thanks.

Flopnanas#746

Liana has already embarrassed herself enough.

Challenge 17#747

Liana had an amazing speech. It was a powerful real moment. That being said she was playing a really bad game so I don't need to see her again. 

Challenge 17#748

As for Xander I mean he's cute but he's a perfect example of people overestimating the flashy moves. His game has been pretty mediocre tbh.

flyguy#749

Shes 20, emotional, and tall so I want her on the challenge, idc 

Challenge 17#750

Shes 20, emotional, and tall so I want her on the challenge, idc 

I don't see anyone from this season being on it tbh.

anon12423452355...#751

Shes 20, emotional, and tall so I want her on the challenge, idc 

She just doesn't give me Challenge vibes. She's kind of boring and nerdy. The Challenge needs fun, charismatic but dramatic personalities again. Sydney would be perfect. 

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