Survivor: Generic Thread (No Spoilers)

Just finished the first two episodes of Aus. Survivor this new season and my god is this a completly better product than the US version. Episodes are on youtube I suggest you guys take a look.

The tribal on episode 2. Like how is someone going to ruin all that. Smh

Boston Rob sucks at Survivor.

He's probably the most overrated player there is! It took him 4 attempts to finally win, and even that win was only because the show basically rigged it for him.

Who's y'alls favorites so far on Aussie Survivor?

I liked Zen sad he's gone. I lowkey like Nash and waiting for his downfall. Disappointed in Ally telling AJ's plan. 

Rooting for Karin, Max, AJ, Paulie, Nash, Morgan, Kate and Noonan. 

I don't dislike like anyone, maybe Rich, this season. Kent is the only one I disliked

Who's y'alls favorites so far on Aussie Survivor?

I liked Zen sad he's gone. I lowkey like Nash and waiting for his downfall. Disappointed in Ally telling AJ's plan. 

Rooting for Karin, Max, AJ, Paulie, Nash, Morgan, Kate and Noonan. 

I don't dislike like anyone, maybe Rich, this season. Kent is the only one I disliked

I agree for the most part. Loving the coven (mainly Karin and Logan)

If the challenge has ANY sense Zen and Morgan should get a call for 42

Probably need another week to get to know anyone, like a few of the girls like Logan, Noonan, Morgan and that nurse/rugby player on the brains

Y'all can keep this season. Anti black and will make being autistic her personality trait with her victim noises all season while targeting colored folks that dress nicer than her. https://x.com/sindysus/status/1893396601827164303?s=46

When I watched Micronesia for the first time over 10 years ago I remember people hyped up Natalie Bolton (and still do) but she did absolutely nothing for me. The only memorable thing about her was her jury speech. She was very monotone and mid. As I was watching I thought Tracy Hughes-Wolf is what Natalie was supposed to give. 

But maybe if I rewatched as an adult I'd have a different opinion! 

Natalie was invisble all season and had like 2 episodes where she was cutthroat. Kinda overrated tbh.

I'm starting to want to kiss on you again OS

Also, i'm not sure why absolutely nobody talked about the dark side of reality TV series that aired late last year but there is an episode for Survivor and Kelly, Gervis, and Greg? were all featured. They didn't really say anything that we didn't already know but Kelly seemed to really dislike Richard hatch the way she spoke about him. 

I'm starting to want to kiss on you again OS

I've been waiting for this moment!

Also, i'm not sure why absolutely nobody talked about the dark side of reality TV series that aired late last year but there is an episode for Survivor and Kelly, Gervis, and Greg? were all featured. They didn't really say anything that we didn't already know but Kelly seemed to really dislike Richard hatch the way she spoke about him. 

I watched some but you only got like a 30 min free trial or something so I watched a bit of all the episodes. I was sad Taylor was not interviewed on the Kid Nation one. But Richard has been saying for years that Kelly was giving blöŵjōbs to producers for food so that's probably why she hates him so much.

Also, i'm not sure why absolutely nobody talked about the dark side of reality TV series that aired late last year but there is an episode for Survivor and Kelly, Gervis, and Greg? were all featured. They didn't really say anything that we didn't already know but Kelly seemed to really dislike Richard hatch the way she spoke about him. 

I watched some but you only got like a 30 min free trial or something so I watched a bit of all the episodes. I was sad Taylor was not interviewed on the Kid Nation one. But Richard has been saying for years that Kelly was giving blöŵjōbs to producers for food so that's probably why she hates him so much.

Oh not the bjs lmao

I don't knock Kelly for knowing her talents, but more so I always found it pretty sexist how Richard has always gotten the praise for creating the idea of "alliances" on Survivor when it was really Kelly. Kelly and Sue had a conversation about sticking together and mentioned working with Richard and Rudy. Yes, Kelly ended up having some moral issues when it came down to it and defected, but it was her idea initially and she pursued it. Justice for Kelly's mouth and all of its talents!

Imagine being so desperate that you ask a stank woman that hasn't brushed her teeth in weeks to suck you off in the jungle. Men are disgusting. 

Imagine being so desperate that you ask a stank woman that hasn't brushed her teeth in weeks to suck you off in the jungle. Men are disgusting. 

BGC Producers >>> Survivor Producers

I'm curious, which seasons do you guys think a final 2 instead of a final 3 would have improved? Which do you think it have ruined?

HvV is the only time a final 3 was fine. Otherwise a final 2 feels most appropriate. The game isn't ready to end until you are down to the LAST SURVIVORS. UNTIL YOU CAN NO LONGER VOTE ANYONE OUT. 

HvV is the only time a final 3 was fine. Otherwise a final 2 feels most appropriate. The game isn't ready to end until you are down to the LAST SURVIVORS. UNTIL YOU CAN NO LONGER VOTE ANYONE OUT. 

i actually love this take 

I'm curious, which seasons do you guys think a final 2 instead of a final 3 would have improved? Which do you think it have ruined?

Gabon, Philippines, Worlds Apart, Blood vs Water, Nicaragua. The new era

I'm curious, which seasons do you guys think a final 2 instead of a final 3 would have improved? Which do you think it have ruined?

It would've improved ANY season from Ghost Island onwards. Making it a final 2 puts more of a reliance on social gameplay to make it to the end, and putting more of a reliance on social gameplay to make it to the end puts less of an emphasis on "resumes," which would help prevent there always being a finalist that unfairly gets counted out from the jump. 

There has been a zero-vote finalist 27/32 times there have been a final 3. That is extremely unsatisfying to me. Meanwhile, 14/15 final 2 jury votes were NOT unanimous. That isn't a coincidence. 

See I don't think it would be as close as it seems for the new era. 41 xander or Erika would win the challenge, either they take either and Erika probably still wins or one takes deshawn and wins easily. 42 Mike wins immunity, if he takes Maryanne she still wins; if he takes Romeo it's a Landslide. 43 any one of them could win immunity and Owen loses likely. 44 Heidi or yamyam beat Carolyn probably, 45 is the most interesting since Austin & Dee would have to choose between picking each other or an easy win vs Jake. 46 kenzie or Charlie crush ben, 47, Rachel or sam Landslide against sue. 

See I don't think it would be as close as it seems for the new era. 41 xander or Erika would win the challenge, either they take either and Erika probably still wins or one takes deshawn and wins easily. 42 Mike wins immunity, if he takes Maryanne she still wins; if he takes Romeo it's a Landslide. 43 any one of them could win immunity and Owen loses likely. 44 Heidi or yamyam beat Carolyn probably, 45 is the most interesting since Austin & Dee would have to choose between picking each other or an easy win vs Jake. 46 kenzie or Charlie crush ben, 47, Rachel or sam Landslide against sue. 

I agree that it wouldn't be close the majority of the time. 

One of the issues I have is that the transition from final 2 to final 3 is a transition from going as far as you can possibly go to going until the arbitrary deadline that's set by production. It's also mathematically possible for the most popular person among the jury to lose in a final 3 jury vote. It's never happened, but the fact that it's even possible bothers me. Meanwhile, the final 2 format guarantees that the most popular person among the jury will always win. 

Wonder if Gablers a 0 vote loser like he should have been if there's a final 2 and he didn't get forced to make fire for his life which somehow got him every single vote.

HvV is the only time a final 3 was fine. Otherwise a final 2 feels most appropriate. The game isn't ready to end until you are down to the LAST SURVIVORS. UNTIL YOU CAN NO LONGER VOTE ANYONE OUT. 

100%

Wonder if Gablers a 0 vote loser like he should have been if there's a final 2 and he didn't get forced to make fire for his life which somehow got him every single vote.

God I hate gabler

I do remember there were a string of seasons in the 20s where a group of five people work together, and there was an inner alliance of three people that made it to the end. A final 2 would've ended the predictable blind loyalty to the alliance. I don't think this happens too often now though; people are obsessed with blindsiding their allies for lols. Thank you twostrikes and micheleworshipper. 

Jeff's lame opinion on it. https://ew.com/jeff-probst-reveals-survivor-50-things-fans-will-and-wont-be-voting-on-11685792

"Honestly, Dalton, it's a great question. You and I have debated this forever. I'm 100% certain on this. If I'm given the choice between taking one of two people with me, I'm going to take the person I'm much more likely to beat when I have another person. Now my equation is much more difficult. I want to make the game difficult to win. You got to beat two people now. It's a lot more complicated now. My game has to be better than yours. And yours. I don't understand why anybody would choose a final two. But again, just my opinion,"

HvV is the only time a final 3 was fine. Otherwise a final 2 feels most appropriate. The game isn't ready to end until you are down to the LAST SURVIVORS. UNTIL YOU CAN NO LONGER VOTE ANYONE OUT. 

See, I think a HvV final 2 of Parvati and Russell would have been more appropriate tbh. I get why Sandra won, but she didn't control that season.

To me a final 3 in FvF (which was presumably the plan before injuries hit) would have been fully appropriate since that group of 3 women ran the game.

I'm curious, which seasons do you guys think a final 2 instead of a final 3 would have improved? Which do you think it have ruined?

I think the issue many have is that so often there is a meaningless third person there in a final 3. Having said that, when it was a final 2 we often saw 1 of the 2 big threats leave near the end, meaning the meaningless person still made the final. People ultimately want a final 2 between the two best players.