Wow another great episode! Im loving this season. Really hoping Kelley and Lauren use their idols properly. I think their targets are too big to actually get to the end but im definitely rooting for them 2 the most.

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kvm1977 wrote:The only argument against this season that I can understand is that I could see some people feeling like they don't have anyone to root for.  Gavin and Victoria haven't got a ton of time.  I love Lauren and Kelley but I'm sure that's not universal.  I can't see many people rooting for Ron, Wardog, Aurora, Rick or Julie.  Do people like David?Regardless--the gameplay this year is spot on and I couldn't be happier.  

It's not? Who doesn't love these two queens? 

I didn't like Wentworth the first time around and that hasn't changed. Also, I'm determined not to cheer for returning players because I hate their very inclusion in the game. Lauren is fine. There's nothing I particularly like or dislike about her. She's just wandering along in the game, not really doing anything other than being an athlete who can't stomach rice. I'm fine with her winning, but don't care one way or another.Tribal was really good last night although I still don't have a person to root for. I enjoyed the drama of the moment but in the end I didn't care who went to the "waiting on the beach" tribe.That said, after last night I do see some promise for the remaining episodes. I'm hoping for a big finish. 

lol she was around for like 4 or 5 episodes in San Juan Del Sur and had like 6 confessionals. How in the world could you make a decision if you did not like her or not then?

I can make a decision on a cast member day 1, hour 1, minute 1. I don't need 5 episodes. I've watched 38 seasons of Survivor. I'm a pro. p.s.  I'm really sorry I'm not subscribing to the hive mind favorites. My sincere apologies to everyone here!  Next season, y' all just tell me who I should like right before the premiere and we'll be good. Ok? 

Wentworth is not the hive mind favorite. Yah she was a fan favorite in Second Chances but she has been portrayed with a  villain/negative edit at times this season. 

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FromTheNorth wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:The only argument against this season that I can understand is that I could see some people feeling like they don't have anyone to root for.  Gavin and Victoria haven't got a ton of time.  I love Lauren and Kelley but I'm sure that's not universal.  I can't see many people rooting for Ron, Wardog, Aurora, Rick or Julie.  Do people like David?Regardless--the gameplay this year is spot on and I couldn't be happier.  

It's not? Who doesn't love these two queens? 

I didn't like Wentworth the first time around and that hasn't changed. Also, I'm determined not to cheer for returning players because I hate their very inclusion in the game. Lauren is fine. There's nothing I particularly like or dislike about her. She's just wandering along in the game, not really doing anything other than being an athlete who can't stomach rice. I'm fine with her winning, but don't care one way or another.Tribal was really good last night although I still don't have a person to root for. I enjoyed the drama of the moment but in the end I didn't care who went to the "waiting on the beach" tribe.That said, after last night I do see some promise for the remaining episodes. I'm hoping for a big finish. 

lol she was around for like 4 or 5 episodes in San Juan Del Sur and had like 6 confessionals. How in the world could you make a decision if you did not like her or not then?

I can make a decision on a cast member day 1, hour 1, minute 1. I don't need 5 episodes. I've watched 38 seasons of Survivor. I'm a pro. p.s.  I'm really sorry I'm not subscribing to the hive mind favorites. My sincere apologies to everyone here!  Next season, y' all just tell me who I should like right before the premiere and we'll be good. Ok? 

Wentworth is not the hive mind favorite. Yah she was a fan favorite in Second Chances but she has been portrayed witha  villain/negative edit at times this season. 

If she's the villain, she's a really bad one. 

Edit: On the Russell Hantz scale of villainy, she's a .001 of 10.  Honestly, I thought they were trying to make Wardog the villain and then Ron for a bit.  This season really doesn't have a true villain, which is part of the problem IMHO.

Ron went from being the "puppet master" to crying about a blindside. 

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Bacchus wrote:

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FromTheNorth wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:The only argument against this season that I can understand is that I could see some people feeling like they don't have anyone to root for.  Gavin and Victoria haven't got a ton of time.  I love Lauren and Kelley but I'm sure that's not universal.  I can't see many people rooting for Ron, Wardog, Aurora, Rick or Julie.  Do people like David?Regardless--the gameplay this year is spot on and I couldn't be happier.  

It's not? Who doesn't love these two queens? 

I didn't like Wentworth the first time around and that hasn't changed. Also, I'm determined not to cheer for returning players because I hate their very inclusion in the game. Lauren is fine. There's nothing I particularly like or dislike about her. She's just wandering along in the game, not really doing anything other than being an athlete who can't stomach rice. I'm fine with her winning, but don't care one way or another.Tribal was really good last night although I still don't have a person to root for. I enjoyed the drama of the moment but in the end I didn't care who went to the "waiting on the beach" tribe.That said, after last night I do see some promise for the remaining episodes. I'm hoping for a big finish. 

lol she was around for like 4 or 5 episodes in San Juan Del Sur and had like 6 confessionals. How in the world could you make a decision if you did not like her or not then?

I can make a decision on a cast member day 1, hour 1, minute 1. I don't need 5 episodes. I've watched 38 seasons of Survivor. I'm a pro. p.s.  I'm really sorry I'm not subscribing to the hive mind favorites. My sincere apologies to everyone here!  Next season, y' all just tell me who I should like right before the premiere and we'll be good. Ok? 

Wentworth is not the hive mind favorite. Yah she was a fan favorite in Second Chances but she has been portrayed witha  villain/negative edit at times this season. 

If she's the villain, she's a really bad one. Edit: On the Russell Hantz scale of villainy, she's a .001 of 10.  Honestly, I thought they were trying to make Wardog the villain and then Ron for a bit.  This season really doesn't have a true villain, which is part of the problem IMHO.

Wait you actually have a problem with this season? What is wrong with it? This is the best season since Cagayan. It is freaking delivering. It is the first good season period since MvGX.

Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

lol on a show like survivor where sometimes people notorioudly get hardly any screen time? It is hard to do. Like the person who got voted out last night. They appeared out of nowhere the last 2 episodes. I still have no opinion what to make of them haha.

Not sure how Wentworth is a villain.  She's essentially portrayed as an underdog who's at the bottom fighting to stay in the game 

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Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

lol on a show like survivor where sometimes people notorioudly get hardly any screen time? It is hard to do. Like the person who got voted out last night. They appeared out of nowhere the last 2 episodes. I still have no opinion what to make of them haha.

Some people...yes...Wentworth was never THAT person

I feel like Julia got more airtime than that 

Not sure how Wentworth is a villain.  She's essentially portrayed as an underdog who's at the bottom fighting to stay in the game 

Casual fans did not like how she was "making fun" of people in the pre merge. Whatever. I ****** loved that shit. It was hilarious to me. She is a boss *** *****.

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kvm1977 wrote:Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

lol on a show like survivor where sometimes people notorioudly get hardly any screen time? It is hard to do. Like the person who got voted out last night. They appeared out of nowhere the last 2 episodes. I still have no opinion what to make of them haha.

Some people...yes...Wentworth was never THAT personI feel like Julia got more airtime than that 

He said he did not like Wentworth from the moment he first saw her on her first season. She was in 5 episodes on San Juan Del Sur and got 6 confessionals. How do you determine if you like someone in that short amount of screentime?! lmao.

I didnt like her either on S29. I didnt hate her but she really was a background character. We saw a completely different side on Cambodia though and she's been awesome so far this season too.

I've never been a big David fan but i really like his and Kelley's dynamic. They keep targetting each other but then somehow moving past it and still working together lol

Wow. That was quite the episode.  My opinion on Julie is way down. She sucks. Queen Julia screwed herself yikes that was badly handled. Although rick & Wardog are annoying people. I honestly have no idea how this season is going to go, normally you can kind of tell but honestly anyone could go next at this point. 

I've never been a big David fan but i really like his and Kelley's dynamic. They keep targetting each other but then somehow moving past it and still working together lol

David def is not a emotional players like his ally Rick is. I REFUSE to call him devens. Sorry he is not good enough yet to reach last name territory lol

Wow. That was quite the episode.  My opinion on Julie is way down. She sucks. Queen Julia screwed herself yikes that was badly handled. Although rick & Wardog are annoying people. I honestly have no idea how this season is going to go, normally you can kind of tell but honestly anyone could go next at this point. 

Julie reminds me of crying dawn. ALWAYS ALWAYS crying, whining and *****ing.  BUT YES. Fantastic episode. The merge so far has been incredible. 3 awesome episodes in a row. Loving this season. 

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DNC_Empire wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

lol on a show like survivor where sometimes people notorioudly get hardly any screen time? It is hard to do. Like the person who got voted out last night. They appeared out of nowhere the last 2 episodes. I still have no opinion what to make of them haha.

Some people...yes...Wentworth was never THAT personI feel like Julia got more airtime than that 

He said he did not like Wentworth from the moment he first saw her on her first season. She was in 5 episodes on San Juan Del Sur and got 6 confessionals. How do you determine if you like someone in that short amount of screentime?! lmao. 

Natalie last season is a perfect example for me of someone people can dislike the first time they speak.  Donathan and Alan Ball(HvHv) are good examples.   While Cydney and Julia (Kaoh Rong) were people I like within moments.  Sometimes you can be wrong about people and opinions can change but, in life, everyone makes judgements on first impressions.  It's human nature.

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Wow. That was quite the episode.  My opinion on Julie is way down. She sucks. Queen Julia screwed herself yikes that was badly handled. Although rick & Wardog are annoying people. I honestly have no idea how this season is going to go, normally you can kind of tell but honestly anyone could go next at this point. 

Julie reminds me of crying dawn. ALWAYS ALWAYS crying, whining and ********.  BUT YES. Fantastic episode. The merge so far has been incredible. 3 awesome episodes in a row. Loving this season. 

Personally crying doesn't bother me, it's a human thing, what bothers me is the way she gets so emotional like with the whole morality thing and her being debbie but trade the arrogance for paranoia. 

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kvm1977 wrote:

DNC_Empire wrote:

kvm1977 wrote:Bacchus is right...you only need one episode often times to decide if you like someone or not. Some people just annoy you immediately. 

lol on a show like survivor where sometimes people notorioudly get hardly any screen time? It is hard to do. Like the person who got voted out last night. They appeared out of nowhere the last 2 episodes. I still have no opinion what to make of them haha.

Some people...yes...Wentworth was never THAT personI feel like Julia got more airtime than that 

He said he did not like Wentworth from the moment he first saw her on her first season. She was in 5 episodes on San Juan Del Sur and got 6 confessionals. How do you determine if you like someone in that short amount of screentime?! lmao. 

Natalie last season is a perfect example for me of someone people can dislike the first time they speak.  Donathan and Alan Ball(HvHv) are good examples.   While Cydney and Julia (Kaoh Rong) were people I like within moments.  Sometimes you can be wrong about people and opinions can change but, in life, everyone makes judgements on first impressions.  It's human nature.[/quote

I HATED how people did not like Natalie. SHE WAS ****** AWESOME!! And a great character. She def will be back. She was a lot of fun. She totally owned who she was and relish's being the villain. I bet we see her on 40.

Natalie was awful at the game.  I don't care if she comes back but i hope she figures out how to actually play the game before she does so.   Her personality won't make her many friends

I love natalie but I get why people don't, she had no gameplay lol

I'd be fine with Natalie on a second chance type season but I need Icons & Winners only for season 40

I love natalie but I get why people don't, she had no gameplay lol

Yeah, I have no problem with people liking her...to each their own...she's the type of person I'd vote of the island for personal reasons over gameplay just because I couldn't stand to be around her.   But I'm sure a lot of people love her.  Hell, outside the show I might really like her--as long as I wasn't working for or with her lol

I think Natalie could come back in an all-star finish and have a Kass or Abi finish. I listened to her on RHAP and she was rather likable. People in an all-star would keep her around because she is a shield and not a threat. I’m all for a Natalie return, I loved her.

I'd be fine with Natalie on a second chance type season but I need Icons & Winners only for season 40

I mean not all 20 players will be icons and winners. You know all all star seasons go. There will be some of the usual WTF choices that slip through the cracks. AKA white and looks good in a bikini. I could see Napalm Natalie making it because of recency bias. Probst loves her. 

Natalie was awful at the game.  I don't care if she comes back but i hope she figures out how to actually play the game before she does so.   Her personality won't make her many friends

She is awful at the game. but that is one of the things that makes her so damn entertaining. I like her for the same reason I like Keith Nale. Both are fun characters that add different layers to a season because they are not gamebots. I would take Keith Nale/ Napalm Natalie anyday over someone like Sarah Lacina. Good God the most boring winner easily in recent survivor memory.

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Natalie was awful at the game.  I don't care if she comes back but i hope she figures out how to actually play the game before she does so.   Her personality won't make her many friends

She is awful at the game. but that is one of the things that makes her so damn entertaining. I like her for the same reason I like Keith Nale. Both are fun characters that add different layers to a season because they are not gamebots. I would take Keith Nale/ Napalm Natalie anyday over someone like Sarah Lacina. Good God the most boring winner easily in recent survivor memory.

Not a fan of Sarah--didn't like her at all but I'll take her any day over Natalie and Keith.  Both are useless to me because I ONLY care about game play.  Keith was far worse than Natalie to be honest.

Aurora is reminding me of a natalie type player tbh, her gameplay is pretty bad but I love her as a character. The bad *** lesbian divorce lawyer who doesn't give a shit about feelings, openly criticizing julie for being over emotional and negotiating over Lauren's unconscious body. 

Aurora is reminding me of a natalie type player tbh, her gameplay is pretty bad but I love her as a character. The bad *** ******* divorce lawyer who doesn't give a **** about feelings, openly criticizing julie for being over emotional and negotiating over Lauren's unconscious body. 

i'm in the middle on this one.  I respect her negotiating after Lauren collapsed.  Her actions at tribal frustrated me to no end. She's better at the game than Natalie was though--I feel like she at least knows there's a game being played lol

Aurora’s game is atrocious...and she is invisible unless she is being shown in a negative light.