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Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claimingI'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not vo...
Discussion thread about Survivor Cambodia: Second Chance - Play to Win with 30 replies from the Vevmo community.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claiming
I'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not voting Kass as a safety net is why it was a bad move. People are only saying it's not nearly as bad as a move because she stayed.
I don't judge moves based on the result. I judge them based on what the player knew prior. I have no doubt Keith and others told Ciera she was safe and she knew it was true. Ciera wasn't going home unless Kass had an idol.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claiming
I'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not voting Kass as a safety net is why it was a bad move. People are only saying it's not nearly as bad as a move because she stayed.
I don't judge moves based on the result. I judge them based on what the player knew prior. I have no doubt Keith and others told Ciera she was safe and she knew it was true. Ciera wasn't going home unless Kass had an idol.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claiming
I'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not voting Kass as a safety net is why it was a bad move. People are only saying it's not nearly as bad as a move because she stayed.
I don't judge moves based on the result. I judge them based on what the player knew prior. I have no doubt Keith and others told Ciera she was safe and she knew it was true. Ciera wasn't going home unless Kass had an idol.
People lie all the time and then vote the person that they lied to out though. If I knew it was going to be a split vote between me and someone else and everyone told me I was safe, I would still vote the opposite person just in case.
Well from Ciera's twitter Kelley told Ciera about jumping ship and voting Kass, so I assume Ciera knew that Kass would have a majority of the split votes and didn't need to write her name down anyways.
Well from Ciera's twitter Kelley told Ciera about jumping ship and voting Kass, so I assume Ciera knew that Kass would have a majority of the split votes and didn't need to write her name down anyways.
This and apparently she had a decent relationship with Stephen and he wanted to keep her around longer and Stephen also had Intel and push with Jeremy and Kimmi, thus the votes going Ciera was going to be very hard to do since Ciera had formed stronger bonds that people wanted to keep her around.Well from Ciera's twitter Kelley told Ciera about jumping ship and voting Kass, so I assume Ciera knew that Kass would have a majority of the split votes and didn't need to write her name down anyways.
If it it was me personally I wouldn't have thrown away a vote when I knew I was at risk. It was a 5-4 vote. All it took was for 1 person to lie to Ciera or one person (including Kass) to flip for it to be a tie between the two. I just don't see the advantage to throwing away the vote rather than using it for a safety net. I'm glad it worked out for Ciera though.
This and apparently she had a decent relationship with Stephen and he wanted to keep her around longer and Stephen also had Intel and push with Jeremy and Kimmi, thus the votes going Ciera was going to be very hard to do since Ciera had formed stronger bonds that people wanted to keep her around.Well from Ciera's twitter Kelley told Ciera about jumping ship and voting Kass, so I assume Ciera knew that Kass would have a majority of the split votes and didn't need to write her name down anyways.
If it it was me personally I wouldn't have thrown away a vote when I knew I was at risk. It was a 5-4 vote. All it took was for 1 person to lie to Ciera or one person (including Kass) to flip for it to be a tie between the two. I just don't see the advantage to throwing away the vote rather than using it for a safety net. I'm glad it worked out for Ciera though.
You keep saying "you" wouldn't have but that doesn't mean it was the right game move. I would have likely written down Kass but we don't know everything Ciera knew. People do lie but you have to trust someone
This and apparently she had a decent relationship with Stephen and he wanted to keep her around longer and Stephen also had Intel and push with Jeremy and Kimmi, thus the votes going Ciera was going to be very hard to do since Ciera had formed stronger bonds that people wanted to keep her around.Well from Ciera's twitter Kelley told Ciera about jumping ship and voting Kass, so I assume Ciera knew that Kass would have a majority of the split votes and didn't need to write her name down anyways.
If it it was me personally I wouldn't have thrown away a vote when I knew I was at risk. It was a 5-4 vote. All it took was for 1 person to lie to Ciera or one person (including Kass) to flip for it to be a tie between the two. I just don't see the advantage to throwing away the vote rather than using it for a safety net. I'm glad it worked out for Ciera though.
You keep saying "you" wouldn't have but that doesn't mean it was the right game move. I would have likely written down Kass but we don't know everything Ciera knew. People do lie but you have to trust someone
You have to trust someone, yes. But her voting for Savage didn't benefit her in any way (besides not ******* off a jury member which Kass was her friend so it wouldn't have done that much damage). If Keith and Kelley told her they were flipping to Kass, she should have just done it also at that point.
How did it no benefit her in any way when she is guaranteed to not be burning any bridges she hasn't already burned? Still can work with Tasha and absolutely get Kass' vote as she remained loyal to her. This conversation is getting repetitive and you've brought up good points, but there are clear benefits to that vote.
How did it no benefit her in any way when she is guaranteed to not be burning any bridges she hasn't already burned? Still can work with Tasha and absolutely get Kass' vote as she remained loyal to her. This conversation is getting repetitive and you've brought up good points, but there are clear benefits to that vote.
Voting for him didn't send him home. She was the only vote for him and that COULD have made their relationship worse. It was already bad but her voting for him could put the nail in her coffin. Voting for Kass would have made more sense if she knew everyone else was just going to do it anyway. Especially since it was such a great vote. Remaining loyal to the person who was known to be going to jury doesn't really mean shit. But you are right, I have brought up a lot of good points.
When did I say voting for him sent him home? It threw a vote to someone she's already in a bad spot with and someone Ciera knows she doesn't have a chance to work with after what happened with the Woo vote and the scrambling at the merge. You have no idea what it could mean to Kass or not,loyalty means something to people. It's silly to think remaining loyal to someone who knew they were going doesn't mean anything.
Way to be humble with that last point tho, not too surprising.
She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her out
She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her out
Very smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
She wasn't trying to get him out..... smh why is that such a hard concept for you to understand. She threw away the vote because he already hates her and she didn't want to betray Kass. It was a throw away vote, newsflash people do that, especially with jury members, you don't want to break alliances with people who hold your fate. Savage would never work with her regardless, she knew that that's the reason she voted for him.She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
I was completely joking. It's not a hard concept for me to understand. I know she threw away the vote to someone she has no chances of working with and already doesn't like her/wanted her out. But you don't throw away a vote when people are splitting the vote between you and another person. It was a dumb move that just happened to work out for her this time. She got Lucky that Savage coldn't get people to vote for Ciera instead. She cold have used the vote to her advantage to save herself just incase someone lied to her/flipped, but instead threw it away.
But you guys are just going to continue to argue that it was a great move that she threw away her vote to someone who dislikes her even though she almost got enough votes to go home. Ight.
So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
I love Tasha. She has a fierce attitude. Great competitor and has a solid social game and really plays the game.
So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
It's not her gameplay .. it's her attitude. She's putting this ********* act on and it doesn't resonate well with some people, because people see it as fake and extra. Me personally, I liked her a bit more on her first season. She's a bit too much to handle this time.
When did I say voting for him sent him home? It threw a vote to someone she's already in a bad spot with and someone Ciera knows she doesn't have a chance to work with after what happened with the Woo vote and the scrambling at the merge. You have no idea what it could mean to Kass or not,loyalty means something to people. It's silly to think remaining loyal to someone who knew they were going doesn't mean anything. Way to be humble with that last point tho, not too surprising.
I'm only trying to say that her loyalty to Kass would not have mattered if someone lied to her or flipped and voted Ciera out instead. At that point Ciera would have been in the jury and Kass wold have still been in all because Ciera wanted to stay loyal instead of making sure she stayed.
So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
I don't think she is, almost everyone who's out have said she comes across too strong and rude at times in Jeff, Peih Gee, and Monica. She completely mishandled Kass and sent her to the jury upset with her and the first jury member always sets the tone. I have no issue with her lying to Kass, but the "haha you think I'm gonna tell you the truth?" was unnecessary, especially when she wasn't sure if the jury was starting at 13 or 12.
This kinda makes what Trish said about her ring true, but it was never seen in the edit.
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So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
I don't think she is, almost everyone who's out have said she comes across too strong and rude at times in Jeff, Peih Gee, and Monica. She completely mishandled Kass and sent her to the jury upset with her and the first jury member always sets the tone. I have no issue with her lying to Kass, but the "haha you think I'm gonna tell you the truth?" was unnecessary, especially when she wasn't sure if the jury was starting at 13 or 12.
This kinda makes what Trish said about her ring true, but it was never seen in the edit.
It's very very clear that Varner was just SUPER bitter about his vote-off and then Varner kept talking shit at ponderosa which made all the pre-jurors have a gang mentality against Tasha.
Tasha is great friends with J'tia, Spencer, Morgan, etc. + people from other seasons outside of the show with the exception of Trish (delusional), Tony (bitter), and I heard Sarah? She's simply just a confident, strong, independent black woman and people don't like it. If she was younger, white, and looked like Parvati she'd have x3 as many fans as she does.
Of course i'm just talking about the hard-core online fans who are all about female empowerment (I am too) and stan for random women just for being a woman. The cat ladies (casual fans on the facebook page) love her so far but they like Joe, Keith, Varner more.
She wasn't trying to get him out..... smh why is that such a hard concept for you to understand. She threw away the vote because he already hates her and she didn't want to betray Kass. It was a throw away vote, newsflash people do that, especially with jury members, you don't want to break alliances with people who hold your fate. Savage would never work with her regardless, she knew that that's the reason she voted for him.She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
I was completely joking. It's not a hard concept for me to understand. I know she threw away the vote to someone she has no chances of working with and already doesn't like her/wanted her out. But you don't throw away a vote when people are splitting the vote between you and another person. It was a dumb move that just happened to work out for her this time. She got Lucky that Savage coldn't get people to vote for Ciera instead. She cold have used the vote to her advantage to save herself just incase someone lied to her/flipped, but instead threw it away.
But you guys are just going to continue to argue that it was a great move that she threw away her vote to someone who dislikes her even though she almost got enough votes to go home. Ight.
Because she knew Kass was going home, Kelley and Keith,it didn't "happen " to work, out smh, she did it because she knew Kass was already gone. Ciera voting for Kass would just make it 7-4 instead of 6-4, you're acting like there was one vote between her and Kass.She wasn't trying to get him out..... smh why is that such a hard concept for you to understand. She threw away the vote because he already hates her and she didn't want to betray Kass. It was a throw away vote, newsflash people do that, especially with jury members, you don't want to break alliances with people who hold your fate. Savage would never work with her regardless, she knew that that's the reason she voted for him.She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
I was completely joking. It's not a hard concept for me to understand. I know she threw away the vote to someone she has no chances of working with and already doesn't like her/wanted her out. But you don't throw away a vote when people are splitting the vote between you and another person. It was a dumb move that just happened to work out for her this time. She got Lucky that Savage coldn't get people to vote for Ciera instead. She cold have used the vote to her advantage to save herself just incase someone lied to her/flipped, but instead threw it away.
But you guys are just going to continue to argue that it was a great move that she threw away her vote to someone who dislikes her even though she almost got enough votes to go home. Ight.
There was. It was 5-4. If Kass said "hey they're splitting the vote let me vote for Ciera". It would have been 5-5 and went to a revote. At that point someone could have flipped and got Ciera out instead (if they had wanted to). If I was Ciera I personally wouldn't have taken that risk.
Because she knew Kass was going home, Kelley and Keith,it didn't "happen " to work, out smh, she did it because she knew Kass was already gone. Ciera voting for Kass would just make it 7-4 instead of 6-4, you're acting like there was one vote between her and Kass.She wasn't trying to get him out..... smh why is that such a hard concept for you to understand. She threw away the vote because he already hates her and she didn't want to betray Kass. It was a throw away vote, newsflash people do that, especially with jury members, you don't want to break alliances with people who hold your fate. Savage would never work with her regardless, she knew that that's the reason she voted for him.She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
I was completely joking. It's not a hard concept for me to understand. I know she threw away the vote to someone she has no chances of working with and already doesn't like her/wanted her out. But you don't throw away a vote when people are splitting the vote between you and another person. It was a dumb move that just happened to work out for her this time. She got Lucky that Savage coldn't get people to vote for Ciera instead. She cold have used the vote to her advantage to save herself just incase someone lied to her/flipped, but instead threw it away.
But you guys are just going to continue to argue that it was a great move that she threw away her vote to someone who dislikes her even though she almost got enough votes to go home. Ight.
There was. It was 5-4. If Kass said "hey they're splitting the vote let me vote for Ciera". It would have been 5-5 and went to a revote. At that point someone could have flipped and got Ciera out instead (if they had wanted to). If I was Ciera I personally wouldn't have taken that risk.
I can't with you guys repeating the same thing over and over again lmaooo.
So glad Tasha isn't getting hate on here. Other sites are giving her so much shit and making up reasons to hate her and calling her all sorts of names. It's so annoying.... she's playing a great game whether you like her or not. She was put in a sucky situation but has managed to have a lot of control since the swap along. I love her.
I don't think she is, almost everyone who's out have said she comes across too strong and rude at times in Jeff, Peih Gee, and Monica. She completely mishandled Kass and sent her to the jury upset with her and the first jury member always sets the tone. I have no issue with her lying to Kass, but the "haha you think I'm gonna tell you the truth?" was unnecessary, especially when she wasn't sure if the jury was starting at 13 or 12.
This kinda makes what Trish said about her ring true, but it was never seen in the edit.
It's very very clear that Varner was just SUPER bitter about his vote-off and then Varner kept talking shit at ponderosa which made all the pre-jurors have a gang mentality against Tasha.
Tasha is great friends with J'tia, Spencer, Morgan, etc. + people from other seasons outside of the show with the exception of Trish (delusional), Tony (bitter), and I heard Sarah? She's simply just a confident, strong, independent black woman and people don't like it. If she was younger, white, and looked like Parvati she'd have x3 as many fans as she does.
People liking Tasha outside the show has literally zero revelance when she was delusional and rude during the show. Multiple people said she'd talk about how God has chosen her as the winner and she's deciding who to take with her. LJ, Jefra, Woo, Trish, Tony, Jeremiah they all were annoyed with her at some point. What's ironic is Trish isn't even delusional because everything she said is coming to be true when people are trashing her again. Tony isn't even bitter lol he's fine with her not voting him, he still a million.
Stop making things about her race and face that she's not this likable player/person like the edit tried to portray.
Because she knew Kass was going home, Kelley and Keith,it didn't "happen " to work, out smh, she did it because she knew Kass was already gone. Ciera voting for Kass would just make it 7-4 instead of 6-4, you're acting like there was one vote between her and Kass.She wasn't trying to get him out..... smh why is that such a hard concept for you to understand. She threw away the vote because he already hates her and she didn't want to betray Kass. It was a throw away vote, newsflash people do that, especially with jury members, you don't want to break alliances with people who hold your fate. Savage would never work with her regardless, she knew that that's the reason she voted for him.She voted for savage cause she knew he hated her already. Not a bad move. He would never work with her and wanted her outVery smart of her. Her one vote really against him really helped almost get him out. Definitely was smart for getting her further in the game
I was completely joking. It's not a hard concept for me to understand. I know she threw away the vote to someone she has no chances of working with and already doesn't like her/wanted her out. But you don't throw away a vote when people are splitting the vote between you and another person. It was a dumb move that just happened to work out for her this time. She got Lucky that Savage coldn't get people to vote for Ciera instead. She cold have used the vote to her advantage to save herself just incase someone lied to her/flipped, but instead threw it away.
But you guys are just going to continue to argue that it was a great move that she threw away her vote to someone who dislikes her even though she almost got enough votes to go home. Ight.
There was. It was 5-4. If Kass said "hey they're splitting the vote let me vote for Ciera". It would have been 5-5 and went to a revote. At that point someone could have flipped and got Ciera out instead (if they had wanted to). If I was Ciera I personally wouldn't have taken that risk.
I see what Free Agents is saying. It worked out for Ciera but it didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to throw away a vote when her *** was on the chopping block. In that situation I would make sure my vote would keep me in the game regardless but that's just me.
I see what Free Agents is saying. It worked out for Ciera but it didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to throw away a vote when her *** was on the chopping block. In that situation I would make sure my vote would keep me in the game regardless but that's just me.
I probably would but at the same time if I knew like ciera did, that my ally was going home regardless, i might throw a vote away. Voting for your own alliance doesn't send the best messages about who can be trusted.I see what Free Agents is saying. It worked out for Ciera but it didn't make a whole lot of sense for her to throw away a vote when her *** was on the chopping block. In that situation I would make sure my vote would keep me in the game regardless but that's just me.
Thanks DA haha. And yea I see what you're saying. My thing is just you never really know that your ally is 100% going home from what people tell you. People lie to people and blindside them all the time. I would just rather be safe than sorry.
Ciera should have written down Kass IMO but it wasn't nearly as bad of a game move as some are claimingI'm only claiming it as a bad move had Kass or someone else flipped and voted Ciera. Ciera not vo...
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