Taylor wasn't good at playing big brother but they didn't vote for her because she was black. they could have just voted for Monte who was black and played a more standard good Big Brother game.

hell if Paloma doesn't walk Taylor is literally voted out that week against terrence unanimously lol

They voted for her because they were aware of the backlash. Same reason same made the F2

They did not care about optics when they were talking about Taylor at the very start. And, her making it to the end is a good example of how to play the game from a social standpoint. I'd argue she's a more interesting Jordan Lloyd because she had to get from point Z to A and her speech during finale night is a good example of how far composure and grace can take you.

And, I don't think Taylor is a good strategic player, but her win is an interesting representation of how BB's wins aren't always built around big moves. Josh is a good example of that, Lisa Donahue too. And, I'd argue both of them played better games than given credit for (Josh less so but undermining Paul was a very smart strategy).

Josh was garbage and won simply because people didn't want Paul to win.   Lisa won only because there wasn't a jury.  Both were badly outplayed.  One by a black female. 

They did not care about optics when they were talking about Taylor at the very start. And, her making it to the end is a good example of how to play the game from a social standpoint. I'd argue she's a more interesting Jordan Lloyd because she had to get from point Z to A and her speech during finale night is a good example of how far composure and grace can take you.

And, I don't think Taylor is a good strategic player, but her win is an interesting representation of how BB's wins aren't always built around big moves. Josh is a good example of that, Lisa Donahue too. And, I'd argue both of them played better games than given credit for (Josh less so but undermining Paul was a very smart strategy).

Josh was garbage and won simply because people didn't want Paul to win.   Lisa won only because there wasn't a jury.  Both were badly outplayed.  One by a black female. 

Lisa did not play a better game than  Dani, but I do think she objectively had a good game that would be given more credit if not for Danielle's lost.

Josh playing on that fact to win over Paul is still big, someone with less awareness could've fumbled that.

Jun is probably a top 3 winner for me due to how interesting her gameplay is. The best players are rarely ever straightforward. Taylor is good follow-up to that, plenty would've  crumbled in her position.

Right they were made aware of the backlash of them isolating and "bullying" her or whatever. I think that was complete bullshit they were even talking to them about it but it didn't seem like they made them aware people were saying it was racial tho.

I think her win is shit and Monte should have been won unanimously but that's whatever at this point. Ultimately i think she made final two because Monte killed the end game and rightfully felt that he had completely outplayed Taylor over Turner and his comp wins 

Taylor wasn't good at playing big brother but they didn't vote for her because she was black. they could have just voted for Monte who was black and played a more standard good Big Brother game.

hell if Paloma doesn't walk Taylor is literally voted out that week against terrence unanimously lol

They voted for her because they were aware of the backlash. Same reason same made the F2

People keep saying this but who the hell confirmed this?

And, you can watch Taylor's speech, she cemented her win herself.

Taylor wasn't good at playing big brother but they didn't vote for her because she was black. they could have just voted for Monte who was black and played a more standard good Big Brother game.

hell if Paloma doesn't walk Taylor is literally voted out that week against terrence unanimously lol

They voted for her because they were aware of the backlash. Same reason same made the F2

People keep saying this but who the hell confirmed this?

And, you can watch Taylor's speech, she cemented her win herself.

the Jury members were directly asked a pointed question about "Taylor being bullied by them" during their zoom call post eviction interviews week to week.

Thats directly informing them of the perception 

Monte played the better game but Taylor had the better story/speech. Either would have been good winners.

They did not care about optics when they were talking about Taylor at the very start. And, her making it to the end is a good example of how to play the game from a social standpoint. I'd argue she's a more interesting Jordan Lloyd because she had to get from point Z to A and her speech during finale night is a good example of how far composure and grace can take you.

And, I don't think Taylor is a good strategic player, but her win is an interesting representation of how BB's wins aren't always built around big moves. Josh is a good example of that, Lisa Donahue too. And, I'd argue both of them played better games than given credit for (Josh less so but undermining Paul was a very smart strategy).

Josh was garbage and won simply because people didn't want Paul to win.   Lisa won only because there wasn't a jury.  Both were badly outplayed.  One by a black female. 

Lisa did not play a better game than  Dani, but I do think she objectively had a good game that would be given more credit if not for Danielle's lost.

Josh playing on that fact to win over Paul is still big, someone with less awareness could've fumbled that.

Jun is probably a top 3 winner for me due to how interesting her gameplay is. The best players are rarely ever straightforward. Taylor is good follow-up to that, plenty would've  crumbled in her position.

We agree on Jun. She played one of the best games ever. Lisa and Josh weren't on that level. 

Monte played the better game but Taylor had the better story/speech. Either would have been good winners.

How?  Did either actually play a good game?  We're setting the bar low

Aaryn was aware of her perception post-eviction; if someone is booed, anyone can hear it, and post-eviction questions and DR questions will give a hint to something.

That's not new by any means.

Monte played the better game but Taylor had the better story/speech. Either would have been good winners.

How?  Did either actually play a good game?  We're setting the bar low

Monte quite literally played a great game, always kept himself useful and apart of the original creation of the main alliance of the season. Won comps when he needed to and immediately put himself in a spot to not get evicted when they split the house for that twist even tho Michael SHOULD have evicted him.

He played pretty good. Not Dan level shit but who really is 

Taylor wasn't disliked in the beginning because of her skin color like Kemi and Candice. It was her attitude and presence was misunderstood by catty girls. Production let them know how it was coming off many times and that's the only reason she made it far and then won. If production doesn't intervene and how they are being percieved she 100% leaves prejury.

It is honestly CRAZY how much homophobia there is on any pride related post that The Challenge Instagram makes

It is honestly CRAZY how much homophobia there is on any pride related post that The Challenge Instagram makes

Smh I noticed they turned off the comments on dereks video

It is honestly CRAZY how much homophobia there is on any pride related post that The Challenge Instagram makes

I might have to make an IG to look at this, lol

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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i mean that's literally how most people talk here so 

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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Hauserman has said worse...probably as recently as today.  

It is honestly CRAZY how much homophobia there is on any pride related post that The Challenge Instagram makes

thank you for getting MY thread back on topic

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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Hauserman has said worse...probably as recently as today.  

Oop, the most I do is call Kaycee a man. 

Bananas and Paulie are hanging out together ( instagram stories) 

WHAAAATTT lol

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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Hauserman has said worse...probably as recently as today.  

Oop, the most I do is call Kaycee a man. 

You've said worse--not that I have an issue with it--I don't really care what anyone says--everyone's entitled to their own opinion

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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Hauserman has said worse...probably as recently as today.  

Oop, the most I do is call Kaycee a man. 

You've said worse--not that I have an issue with it--I don't really care what anyone says--everyone's entitled to their own opinion

You don't really care yet you summon him by bringing up his name in a convo that has nothing to do with him...you're such a drama frog and you know it.

 its getting ridiculous. This was a comment under the ravyn bikini pic on FB

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Hauserman has said worse...probably as recently as today.  

Oop, the most I do is call Kaycee a man. 

You've said worse--not that I have an issue with it--I don't really care what anyone says--everyone's entitled to their own opinion

You don't really care yet you summon him by bringing up his name in a convo that has nothing to do with him...you're such a drama frog and you know it.

Lol ... how often is my name brought up?   Do you call people out for that?  Simply stating something we all know. Your response is desperate but funny so thanks for that. 

Gross, I hope they get lost at sea untill season 40 wraps and then they return safely home.

Gross, I hope they get lost at sea untill season 40 wraps and then they return safely home.