The Challenge: Total Madness Discussion (SPOILERS)

I respect Zach for not pretending like he has changed, grown, or even cares to. But like someone else said, they are uncomfortable to watch. There's clearly psychological abuse going on there. We know MTV lacks any kind of morality but I really hope they never allow either on ever again.  

Did I miss something? Why did Nany leave at the end, they weren't even talking to her or about her.

I have a new love for Swaggy who did not care about being there at all lol and let it show.

My opinion flipped on Swaggy. Hated him on/post BB and dreaded him on the Challenge but he was actually pretty cool. Bayleigh on the other hand was a crazy ***** on BB, and just confirmed it on the Challenge. I'd be ok with Swaggy coming back. 

No Morris, you're the *****! You're annoying af. I don't know why you're so obsessed with Bay. Maybe she's too emotional, but she has never done anything to say she's crazy or has anger issues. There are people on this season who have got in PHYSICAL altercations in the past and have yelled at ppl on this season yet she's the ONLY one you keep calling crazy.

FYI Swaggy is done with really TV, so he won't be back.

I gave my opinion of Swaggy.. and Bayleigh goes right along with him. I don't really care if I annoy you, because you are nothing.

She is CRAZY and has ANGER ISSUES, and the reason I'm not calling anyone else crazy at the moment is because I WASNT TALKING ABOUT THEIR FIANCÉS/HUSBANDS LIKE I WAS BAYLEIGHS. Move along because for every time you reply to me, I'm just gonna call Bayleigh crazier and angrier cause I have you heated. And you best get ready for the Big a Brother thread cause if she's on All Stars (SOMEHOW), I'll be calling out her psycho antics there too.. along with anybody else acting like a lunatic. And btw, I don't remember anybody shrieking like a possessed angry ghost like Bayleigh does.

Damn ma is it that serious?????

Just admit you're a bayleigh stan because clearly you're obsessed, and I'll just leave it at that...Corny *** loser

Crazy *****. Anger issues.

You should be thankful you had this argument with him. I guarantee Graphik would've attacked you 1000x harder.

Lmaooo at yall saying Nany woulda won wotw if she and turbo remained partners. Nany woulda draggedddd turbo down while theo had cara who are equally both as good. Just face it nany will always remain a big fat flop!

Agree with this. Nany would've dragged Turbo down (not that she's horrible, but still enough to really slow him down). Theo/Cara would have probably won - both even finished top 5 individually - not sure if Nany would've even reached that point lol. They really should have kept it in pairs - Ninja/Paulie, Wes/Dee, etc. - that's a competitive final.

So is next week part 2 of the reunion + s%it they should have shown?

Nany has never dragged any of her partners down. I actually can see her winning with someone that can motivated her.

Nany has never dragged any of her partners down. I actually can see her winning with someone that can motivated her.

Agreed. Nany would have really done well in that final with Turbo. Nany annoys me but let's give credit when it's due. 

Nany has never dragged any of her partners down. I actually can see her winning with someone that can motivated her.

Agreed. Nany would have really done well in that final with Turbo. Nany annoys me but let's give credit when it's due. 

Exactly I feel like alone she doenst give her all but when she has someone she doesnt like letting them down.

Someone on reddit said that they got a cameo from Cara and she said "formerly of the challenge"

Someone on reddit said that they got a cameo from Cara and she said "formerly of the challenge"

I just saw this wtf and Jemmye quoted some tweet that said a male who has a strong say in production is trying to blackball her. You mean to tell me they can't let the men on this show receive punishment for their actions but they can forbid Cara from showing up because most likely Bananas doesn't want to deal with her???

Someone on reddit said that they got a cameo from Cara and she said "formerly of the challenge"

I just saw this wtf and Jemmye quoted some tweet that said a male who has a strong say in production is trying to blackball her. You mean to tell me they can't let the men on this show receive punishment for their actions but they can forbid Cara from showing up because most likely Bananas doesn't want to deal with her???

Could be a producer rather than a cast member. Either way, crazy that one person is capable of removing the female face from the show, especially with Dee gone too. I don't even like Cara but she's a better casting choice for the show than a majority of the girls from TM, if anything just to root against

If the elimination in the final doesn't count then the tribunal doesn't so Cory had 4 Tribunals and Bananas had 5

Jemmye  knows nothing and comments on everything."Powerful man" can be any producer who saw her pathetic and ugly comments about this season's ratings.If you don't respect the success of the show you work for, then stay home.

Nany has never dragged any of her partners down. I actually can see her winning with someone that can motivated her.

Agreed. Nany would have really done well in that final with Turbo. Nany annoys me but let's give credit when it's due. 

Exactly I feel like alone she doenst give her all but when she has someone she doesnt like letting them down.

If Cara isn't on next season it may be due to what she and Paulie were putting out on social media rather than Bananas not wanting her on.

agreed with all of this

Nany has never dragged any of her partners down. I actually can see her winning with someone that can motivated her.

Agreed. Nany would have really done well in that final with Turbo. Nany annoys me but let's give credit when it's due. 

Exactly I feel like alone she doenst give her all but when she has someone she doesnt like letting them down.

Nany is definitely breaking. She needs to take more than 3 seasons off. She didn't even seem happy on WOTW I and her on this reunion isn't a good look

I will forever think that she seriously was broken by WotW because she probably would've been a champion (finally) if the stupid twist didn't happen and she and Turbo stayed paired in the final. 

You think she became a broken person since War of the Worlds?! Nany has been broken since her Real World season. She comes across as having a big heart but she gets herself into stupid situations, especially with men who have girlfriends and comes off looking bad. On the challenges, she's too drunk and needy for affection from someone. That's why she took a break the last time and should take a permanent break now. The Challenges are indeed not for her.

Nany is the type of person that can't do some many seasons in a row. She lowkey doesnt know when to take breaks until she is miserable

Someone on reddit said that they got a cameo from Cara and she said "formerly of the challenge"

Take everything Cara and Paulie do with a grainy of salt they like to troll.

Someone on reddit said that they got a cameo from Cara and she said "formerly of the challenge"

Take everything Cara and Paulie do with a grainy of salt they like to troll.

And their trolling is lame. Faking a break up. Stupid.

Nany needs to do something called training if she comes back next season. At this point they should all be doing a Jenny and practicing maths equations on their couches with their guinea  pigs. Theres always maths,

Also isnt there now rumors that bayleigh is going to be on this allstars Big Brother and Paulie maybe being an alternative?

Wait, Jenny practices math equations and has guinea pigs? I love her now.

Nany is the type of person that can't do some many seasons in a row. She lowkey doesnt know when to take breaks until she is miserable

I think this show gets to the girls easier and unfortunately we've seen a lot of them crack. Nany, Cara, Camila, even Theresa and so on. I'm a little worried about queen Ashley but then again, she has gone early on 2 of the last 3 seasons so she basically got a break.

I don't think Nany should do the challenges anymore at all. Because she took a break before, and then when she comes back, she falls into the same pattern again. I don't think it's a healthy environment for her mentally. 

Nany is the type of person that can't do some many seasons in a row. She lowkey doesnt know when to take breaks until she is miserable

I think this show gets to the girls easier and unfortunately we've seen a lot of them crack. Nany, Cara, Camila, even Theresa and so on. I'm a little worried about queen Ashley but then again, she has gone early on 2 of the last 3 seasons so she basically got a break.

Yeah, my girl Ashley (I get sick of "queen" this and that, but I love me some Ashley) after she won her first challenge and she did Champs vs Stars, she was beginning to break down at the beginning of the following Challenge she was on, so she dipped early. lol.

Nany is the type of person that can't do some many seasons in a row. She lowkey doesnt know when to take breaks until she is miserable

I think this show gets to the girls easier and unfortunately we've seen a lot of them crack. Nany, Cara, Camila, even Theresa and so on. I'm a little worried about queen Ashley but then again, she has gone early on 2 of the last 3 seasons so she basically got a break.

Yeah, my girl Ashley (I get sick of "queen" this and that, but I love me some Ashley) after she won her first challenge and she did Champs vs Stars, she was beginning to break down at the beginning of the following Challenge she was on, so she dipped early. lol.

She's definitely one who breaks but at least she's self-aware enough to know it. 

What was wrong with Nany during the reunion? Was she coming down from a bad high or sumn. That was hard to watch, there's more going on than what we know for sure.

happy 5 year !

I still wish the skull twist never happened...

john has never won since and never will!