The Challenge: Final Reckoning (Spoilers Discussion)

Vevmo is on a roll this week telling people how to Grieve and Raise Children. What’s next from this all knowing and powerful board of Reality TV watchers 

The stupidity lately has increased indeed.

JayTea wrote:

Vevmo is on a roll this week telling people how to Grieve and Raise Children. What’s next from this all knowing and powerful board of Reality TV watchers 

say that again

Keeping an eye on someone

Keeping an eye on someone

to be out of the game altogether? If so that would tell us a lot about how Invaders work. 

PinkRose wrote:

Keeping an eye on someone

to be out of the game altogether? If so that would tell us a lot about how Invaders work. 

No 

natfan42 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:Keeping an eye on someone

to be out of the game altogether? If so that would tell us a lot about how Invaders work. 

No 

to be in redemption, or is this someone else, you think might be another invader? 

Debut Album wrote:

JayTea wrote:Vevmo is on a roll this week telling people how to Grieve and Raise Children. What’s next from this all knowing and powerful board of Reality TV watchers 

say that again

The self righteous people on this site are wayyyyy more Bananas than Bananas could ever be lol!!

PinkRose wrote:

natfan42 wrote:

PinkRose wrote:Keeping an eye on someone

to be out of the game altogether? If so that would tell us a lot about how Invaders work. 

No 

to be in redemption, or is this someone else, you think might be another invader?

Ugh.. I'm over this invasion twist.

Keeping an eye doesnt mean its for sure on it just based on something I was told

Is it Madison?

Ash/Hunter and Devin/Cory were enough imo

This person is looking like a no

I would be mad disappointed if no f/f team invades this btw.

Ash/Hunter and Devin/Cory were enough imo

I would be mad disappointed if no f/f team invades this btw.

they did technically start with more girls. But when the final 8 is Amanda and 7 dudes, its gonna be annoying. 

Foofalina wrote:

JayTea wrote:

KingoftheTrill wrote:Devin also made a really good point at the reunion. (During the brief seconds he wasn't making an *** out of himself) If you sit around and let Bananas get to a final, then you've already lost. If you aren't trying to get Bananas into an elimination (where he doesn't have near the amount of success), then you are either playing a scared game, have your head up your ***, or you're Leroy. Getting Bananas out before the final pretty much increases everyone else's expected payday, and Devin sees that. 

It's very point blank, there is no reason to not actively work towards targeting him early. He's one of the biggest threats in a final. Working with him shows me you do not want to win and you are complacent 

Imo this is true for weaker players, but for much stronger players like Zack and CT it is wise to keep him around as a target for a while. Otherwise all the weak player will target and get all the strong players out. Just like in Survivor. The strong players usually keep other strong players in until the merge. Otherwise we will have a final run with nothing but layups. Who wants to see people walking up a hill for three days? I prefer to see the best get to finals. I don't want a three teams of Jemmye and Devin's. Although Jemmye was 100x better on this season. Would you really want to see a fleet of Jay's instead of a Tony, Zack and CT?

I think this is where Zach will really benefit just like he did on Vendettas. People were targetting Bananas and Joss first, and since he's generally well-liked he was able to float by and maintain control without anyone even having his name in their mouth. I bet this is probably his strategy this season again.As for finals, yeah of course I don't want to see the worst of the worst there, but I'd like to see different people there. It gets old watching the same people run finals. I'd like to see how Joss, Shane, Marie, Natalie, Brad(nowadays), Sylvia, etc do in a final because we haven't seen them. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily rooting for them, but I do think it's better and more exciting than say, the final on Dirty 30 where we know their abilities and they finished exactly where I expected them to.

I actually wouldn't have thought Kyle would beat Tony and Leroy. He did well. Partially because the other three were picking on one another and not him. But I agree. The same people time after time is a bit boring, but they keep winning because they are good politically and at comps and finals.

Am not surprised he beat them....both tony and Leroy are known for flopping 

deeper wrote:

Foofalina wrote:

JayTea wrote:

KingoftheTrill wrote:Devin also made a really good point at the reunion. (During the brief seconds he wasn't making an *** out of himself) If you sit around and let Bananas get to a final, then you've already lost. If you aren't trying to get Bananas into an elimination (where he doesn't have near the amount of success), then you are either playing a scared game, have your head up your ***, or you're Leroy. Getting Bananas out before the final pretty much increases everyone else's expected payday, and Devin sees that. 

It's very point blank, there is no reason to not actively work towards targeting him early. He's one of the biggest threats in a final. Working with him shows me you do not want to win and you are complacent 

Imo this is true for weaker players, but for much stronger players like Zack and CT it is wise to keep him around as a target for a while. Otherwise all the weak player will target and get all the strong players out. Just like in Survivor. The strong players usually keep other strong players in until the merge. Otherwise we will have a final run with nothing but layups. Who wants to see people walking up a hill for three days? I prefer to see the best get to finals. I don't want a three teams of Jemmye and Devin's. Although Jemmye was 100x better on this season. Would you really want to see a fleet of Jay's instead of a Tony, Zack and CT?

I think this is where Zach will really benefit just like he did on Vendettas. People were targetting Bananas and Joss first, and since he's generally well-liked he was able to float by and maintain control without anyone even having his name in their mouth. I bet this is probably his strategy this season again.As for finals, yeah of course I don't want to see the worst of the worst there, but I'd like to see different people there. It gets old watching the same people run finals. I'd like to see how Joss, Shane, Marie, Natalie, Brad(nowadays), Sylvia, etc do in a final because we haven't seen them. Doesn't mean I'm necessarily rooting for them, but I do think it's better and more exciting than say, the final on Dirty 30 where we know their abilities and they finished exactly where I expected them to.

I actually wouldn't have thought Kyle would beat Tony and Leroy. He did well. Partially because the other three were picking on one another and not him. But I agree. The same people time after time is a bit boring, but they keep winning because they are good politically and at comps and finals.

No one wants to see a bunch of Jays run a final. But watching the same 6 people compete time and time again? It makes it boring to even watch. It's not even politics anymore as much as it is "oh he's a vet, gotta put in a rookie" and then said vet coasts to the final. Especially when newbies are out numbering vets at this point. It should be easier to get them out. I mean the vets are good. But this new crew is making it to easy for them. 

Was Kayleigh on eotb before big brother or after???

Before

Did Paulie/Natalie comeback from redemption?

Please listen to this Abram interview it’s so good. 

KingoftheTrill wrote:

AllHailKingNanners wrote:

KingoftheTrill wrote:

I completely agree with you but thats not how it panned out had it theres a very good chance darrell and landon would have more than Johnny I will not deny that

I guess my point is that Bananas having 6 wins doesn't automatically make him the best Challenger. He currently has won the most money and has the most wins, but I don't think he's ever had the dominance that Landon, Laurel, or even Emily had. And none of them had Kenny/Evan or Leroy/Tony to protect them. And if Darrell didn't punch Brad, he'd have won 5/8 challenges vs. 6/16 

i respect that but say over the next couple of challeneges and I implore you I am being hypothetical here. If he were to win 2/3 next challenges he is on would that make a stronger case in your mind?

It would depend. (ie who else is there (competition) and did he skate by. Also Challenges that can be easily rigged like the voting in Vendettas or the potential biasness in creating the teams etc. Regardless, if Bananas wins more seasons it would absolutely make a stronger case. You won't get an argument from me on that one. I can't stand him but he's definitely a top challenger (particularly in finals) Eliminations not so much. I just don't like the idea of it being cut and dry based on the number of wins he has. Edit: I think his win on Free Agents was more impressive than any of this other wins, even more than some of them combined. 

I want to preface this by saying its refreshjing talking about this without someone freaking out on me lol. I totally agree, he skated by on Rivals 2 and still couldnt get the job done and maybe some like the ruins where it was a mob of people not just his individual effort that got them to the top wasn't the best display but I also agree with you on Free Agents, I was always a fan since Key West but only after Free Agents was I like wow that was supremely impressive. I also understand your hatred for him lol 

I don't hate him but he's not the best ever. He's ONE of the best ever and it just so happens he's done it 17 times. He's good at finals, sub par in eliminations, and great at strategy (which helps him in finals when he can get the right competition beside him). I give him credit bc he's really good at the game and chose to make a career out of it.  But don't tell me Landon or Jordan couldn't have gotten a few more wins if they did 13 more seasons AND had the partners/set up Bananas had.

It's hard to keep up, but am I understanding this correctly:

It's a partnered challenge, either "rivals" or "ex's"

If you lose, instead of being truly eliminated, you go to a redemption house

There are mercenary teams who every once in a while come into the game and compete for a chance to join the game

Is that correct?

It's hard to keep up, but am I understanding this correctly:It's a partnered challenge, either "rivals" or "ex's"If you lose, instead of being truly eliminated, you go to a redemption houseThere are mercenary teams who every once in a while come into the game and compete for a chance to join the gameIs that correct?

Pretty much

When Devyn comes back and makes her third final in a row >>>>>>. She has to be in the Top 15 women right? 

Did Paulie/Natalie comeback from redemption?

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we dont know

Any word on any hook ups so far  this season?

Did Paulie/Natalie comeback from redemption?

Saaame! I must know already if someone knows please let me know if not I will **** about that and/or any other dumb questions i might have