The Challenge: The Final Reckoning - Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

deeper wrote:

I just realized that Paulie&Natalie more likely than not shot themselves in the foot by voting for Joss&Sylvia rather than Faith&Angela. They didn't show 2 of the votes, but I am like 75% sure CT&V and Tori&Derrick voted for Faith&Angela too. If Natalie&Paulie voted for them, the vote would've been tied 5-5.

I had wondered that as well. 

The non Paulie/Natalie votes seemed disogranized. Still, Angela/Faith and Bananas/Tony weren't voting for Angela/Faith, so best they could have managed was a tie, and then presumably Kyle/Brad get to decide who goes in. 

Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)

C17: Kyle isn't jealous.

Me: -__-

So I watched Nicole's live with Shane and they did an episode recap and even talked about the elimination. Based on how Shane explained it, production only went by how they feel regarding the strength of guy and a girl in geneal to make it how they feel would be fair for the girls if they were to go against a guy. In other words as Natalie explained it, Paulie had boy bands and Kam had girls. And as we can see, Paulie was too weak for the boy bands while for a girl like Kam, she was too strong for the girl bands. Their bands weren't based on their strength as an individual which may would be more fair as you guys would probably like, but of the fact that he's a boy and she's a girl that production had set up. If it was to be a much weaker girl in her place, then they would've had been like Paulie. While if it was somebody like Joss and/or Zach in Paulie's place, they probably would've been like Kam in that *****. And even still, this really had little to do with the case of why Natalie/Paulie lost cause for one, Shane said that puzzle that Kayleigh done good on had took an hour to get done. Natalie really had time to pull through and win for her and Paulie but she just wasn't doing good with it at all even while having Paulie to help guide her. He said she never even started on it from many of the pieces Paulie done gave to her.

Yeah this is why this argument is ridiculous imo. Paulie is really small.. like 5'7" 150 pounds. What if it were Zach vs Kam? Zach is probably like 6'3" 220. Zach would likely have been able to have been right at the cage like Kam was with the boy bands.

The fact of the matter is that Paulie is smaller/weaker for the guys and Kam is bigger/stronger for the girls. Plain and simple.

Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)C17: Kyle isn't jealous.Me: -__-

Honey if he actually wanted her he'd sleep with her. He's tricking her yet again.  Cara would sleep with him again. Are you really that blinded by your cara ***** that you can't tell he has no intention of getting with her? Cara is getting played once again

Littleitaly wrote:

Ok so after watching the ep I'm thinking the title was referring to Britni and not Cara Maria like the comments/ description suggested because the more this season goes on the more Kyle looks like the crazy jealous one NOT Cara 

Nah, Kyle isn't jealous, it's just mind games imo. The way he tells cara he cares about her, but won't **** her and gets rid of someone who will is pure strategy and it's working. He's getting in caras head, because if he actually wanted her back, she'd take him in a heartbeat 

He's a sneaky british grifter. How has no one picked this up from the original season? I am convinced if he and Brad won the final and it came down to who would get the money, he's taking it all. And Brad would have some dad meltdown. 

InterFan wrote:

Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)C17: Kyle isn't jealous.Me: -__-

Honey if he actually wanted her he'd sleep with her. He's tricking her yet again.  Cara would sleep with him again. Are you really that blinded by your cara ***** that you can't tell he has no intention of getting with her? Cara is getting played once again

And yet he managed to say it multiple times that he was jealous. The only one blinded here is you, since you are literally ignoring words he says himself.

https://www.tvguide.com/amp/news/the-challenge-final-reckoning-kyle-cara-love-triangle-explanation/

That article should clear up your delusions but i doubt it will. You've been real slow lately.

Challenge 17 wrote:

InterFan wrote:Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)C17: Kyle isn't jealous.Me: -__-

Honey if he actually wanted her he'd sleep with her. He's tricking her yet again.  Cara would sleep with him again. Are you really that blinded by your cara ***** that you can't tell he has no intention of getting with her? Cara is getting played once again

And yet he managed to say it multiple times that he was jealous. The only one blinded here is you, since you are literally ignoring words he says himself.https://www.tvguide.com/amp/news/the-challenge-final-reckoning-kyle-cara-love-triangle-explanation/That article should clear up your delusions but i doubt it will. You've been real slow lately.

Yes because everything said on the challenge is true, like the epic banatalie romance lol. He's playing it up for the storyline. If he actually ***** her I'll change my mind, but it's all mind games at this point 

InterFan wrote:

Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)C17: Kyle isn't jealous.Me: -__-

Honey if he actually wanted her he'd sleep with her. He's tricking her yet again.  Cara would sleep with him again. Are you really that blinded by your cara ***** that you can't tell he has no intention of getting with her? Cara is getting played once again

its been stated by cast members that Kyle would try to kiss her when he was drunk. He's just one of those players who gets mad when they see that their main girl is talking to someone else. He doesn't want her to be his gf and he wants to keep his freedom but he also doesn't want her to be cozying up with someone else. Some territorial type of shit that never makes sense when you want your **** inserted into whomever whenever 

InterFan wrote:

Challenge 17 wrote:

InterFan wrote:Kyle: I'm jealous (multiple times)C17: Kyle isn't jealous.Me: -__-

Honey if he actually wanted her he'd sleep with her. He's tricking her yet again.  Cara would sleep with him again. Are you really that blinded by your cara ***** that you can't tell he has no intention of getting with her? Cara is getting played once again

And yet he managed to say it multiple times that he was jealous. The only one blinded here is you, since you are literally ignoring words he says himself.https://www.tvguide.com/amp/news/the-challenge-final-reckoning-kyle-cara-love-triangle-explanation/That article should clear up your delusions but i doubt it will. You've been real slow lately.

Yes because everything said on the challenge is true, like the epic banatalie romance lol. He's playing it up for the storyline. If he actually ***** her I'll change my mind, but it's all mind games at this point 

Both Marie and Shane have confirmed that whenever them 2 were alone and away from Cameras, he would try to get with her. He admitted to being jealous. Thats now a fact whether you like it or not.

Eh I said imo anyway, all that does is confirm he saw her as just a sex object too lol.  He's still ruining her game, telling her he's jealous then ******* someone else making her fully blame faith. Its a strategy, that's my main point that people probably don't get. Kyle is one of the most underrated strategic players in a long time. 

Mostly unrelated but does anyone else just cringe when they bring up twitter beef like natalie getting outed okay that's fine, but petty bullshit like they kept doing with brad and tony last season. Twitter beef doesn't interest me to hear about on tv. 

Eh I said imo anyway, all that does is confirm he saw her as just a sex object too lol.  He's still ruining her game, telling her he's jealous then ******* someone else making her fully blame faith. Its a strategy, that's my main point that people probably don't get. Kyle is one of the most underrated strategic players in a long time. 

I agree that he definitely knows what he's doing. Strong feelings still there but he's way more in control of them. He knows how to talk to people and manipulate them. He couldn't pull the same playing dumb as last season when he has a 3rd place ring on his belt. And a lot of people here hate him but we gotta give him credit for his politics 

Dreamdoll wrote:

So I watched Nicole's live with Shane and they did an episode recap and even talked about the elimination. Based on how Shane explained it, production only went by how they feel regarding the strength of guy and a girl in geneal to make it how they feel would be fair for the girls if they were to go against a guy. In other words as Natalie explained it, Paulie had boy bands and Kam had girls. And as we can see, Paulie was too weak for the boy bands while for a girl like Kam, she was too strong for the girl bands. Their bands weren't based on their strength as an individual which may would be more fair as you guys would probably like, but of the fact that he's a boy and she's a girl that production had set up. If it was to be a much weaker girl in her place, then they would've had been like Paulie. While if it was somebody like Joss and/or Zach in Paulie's place, they probably would've been like Kam in that *****. And even still, this really had little to do with the case of why Natalie/Paulie lost cause for one, Shane said that puzzle that Kayleigh done good on had took an hour to get done. Natalie really had time to pull through and win for her and Paulie but she just wasn't doing good with it at all even while having Paulie to help guide her. He said she never even started on it from many of the pieces Paulie done gave to her.

Yeah this is why this argument is ridiculous imo. Paulie is really small.. like 5'7" 150 pounds. What if it were Zach vs Kam? Zach is probably like 6'3" 220. Zach would likely have been able to have been right at the cage like Kam was with the boy bands.The fact of the matter is that Paulie is smaller/weaker for the guys and Kam is bigger/stronger for the girls. Plain and simple.

Yeah

Dreamdoll wrote:

So I watched Nicole's live with Shane and they did an episode recap and even talked about the elimination. Based on how Shane explained it, production only went by how they feel regarding the strength of guy and a girl in geneal to make it how they feel would be fair for the girls if they were to go against a guy. In other words as Natalie explained it, Paulie had boy bands and Kam had girls. And as we can see, Paulie was too weak for the boy bands while for a girl like Kam, she was too strong for the girl bands. Their bands weren't based on their strength as an individual which may would be more fair as you guys would probably like, but of the fact that he's a boy and she's a girl that production had set up. If it was to be a much weaker girl in her place, then they would've had been like Paulie. While if it was somebody like Joss and/or Zach in Paulie's place, they probably would've been like Kam in that *****. And even still, this really had little to do with the case of why Natalie/Paulie lost cause for one, Shane said that puzzle that Kayleigh done good on had took an hour to get done. Natalie really had time to pull through and win for her and Paulie but she just wasn't doing good with it at all even while having Paulie to help guide her. He said she never even started on it from many of the pieces Paulie done gave to her.

Case closed then. Natalie ****** up by not starting the puzzle early enough, Paulie wasn't strong enough, Kam Is a beast, and Kayleigh was slow but still won. Had it been Zach and Kam in elimination, the bands part would have been a lot closer in terms of competition. But also let's remember it's a REALITY show and not a game show so technically they can do whatever the **** they want. They let Jasmine do Balls In against Laurel which we all know is definitely not fair 

Foofalina wrote:

deeper wrote:I just realized that Paulie&Natalie more likely than not shot themselves in the foot by voting for Joss&Sylvia rather than Faith&Angela. They didn't show 2 of the votes, but I am like 75% sure CT&V and Tori&Derrick voted for Faith&Angela too. If Natalie&Paulie voted for them, the vote would've been tied 5-5.

I had wondered that as well. 

The non Paulie/Natalie votes seemed disogranized. Still, Angela/Faith and Bananas/Tony weren't voting for Angela/Faith, so best they could have managed was a tie, and then presumably Kyle/Brad get to decide who goes in. 

I think that was pretty disorganized for Natalie, since she usually has a good political game. It seems they didn't talk about their votes beforehand, whereas the LL+Kam were slightly more organized except for Shane. Natalie and Paulie could've gotten the votes to tie or possibly even win (with Bananas) if everyone was on the same page.

Who knows what they would do in a tie. Brad/Kyle could choose and then it wouldn't matter and I'm wasting my energy lol, or maybe they would just send both teams in, or flip a coin.

Kyle is 100% making more out of it than she is like imagine calling Shane your ‘main vendetta’ in the promos and ep and not sending him in because some guy is flirting (not even doing anything) with a girl you ghosted. 

But welcome to life where the girl is always the crazy one and men’s behaviour is forever excused/ ignored. 

Well I'm not sure if he's doing it intentionally, but Kyle's politics are great again so far. He has Cara targeting Faith instead of him, and has her kinda back on his side or at least not her main target cause he's still flirting with her and instilling hope. He's got rid of Paulie who is a threat because he's close to Cara. He's moving targets off of himself and on to other people, all while playing one girl, ******* another, and having another back home.

He's a POS and I'm not a fan, but he manipulates well. Cara caught a lot of heat for this situation and is being annoying af, but I can see he's still playing her so it's understandable. Homewrecking wasn't the solution, however.

Anyway, as Marie said, this is all stupid and I hope this storyline fades asap.

Kyle is 100% making more out of it than she is like imagine calling Shane your ‘main vendetta’ in the promos and ep and not sending him in because some guy is flirting (not even doing anything) with a girl you ghosted. But welcome to life where the girl is always the crazy one and men’s behaviour is forever excused/ ignored. 

Let's not entertain the fact that a Twitter beef is that serious.  Shane is hated by a lot of people, kyle doesn't need to be the one sending him in, especially not this early. Getting rid of two people cara cares about only further keeps her in line.  There's no gender bullshit happening here, just smart gameplay