I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

What entertainment are any of those names except for Tina are bringing ?

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

What entertainment are any of those names except for Tina are bringing ?

 You've got to ask when someone like Flora is on the list?  A reality tv icon. Second coming of Puck, ultimate villain, I take it you've never seen her season of The Real World.  Cynthia was more entertaining in her  one episode of All Stars 3 with her witty confessionals than those doofuses on the current season. Janelle is apparently involved in a race war with Ayanna that makes her quit the show on AS4, Averey stood her ground on Portland and did very well in a physical fight with Nia (what do ya know entertainment?) and then had a war with Nany. I could go on but I guess your putting your trust in someone like Emmanuel to entertain you. 

i'm really not trying to be called a loser again for defining rating so you got that.

 You Again? Is there still no block button on this website? I am being reminded real fast why I have hardly posted here in months. 

It's bc it's airing with survivor. But yeah these numbers are not the best but have been increasing which is a good thing. Let's see what the numbers for the past all stars seasons look like lol 

About the same. But that airs on a paid streaming service that no one is watching. This is on freaking MTV which is in every hotel, hospital and still in most homes in America. There's no reason the ratings should be as bad as All Stars. 

Only about 56% of America have cable this is down from 76% a few years ago. Acting like everyone has access to this channel when cable is basically dead is a wild take

Not the spoilers

Haven't watched one episode. Will not until they decide to put All Stars 4 on.

Not the spoilers

What spoilers?

i'm really not trying to be called a loser again for defining rating so you got that.

 You Again? Is there still no block button on this website? I am being reminded real fast why I have hardly posted here in months. 

what's actually wrong with you? really 

like quite literally relax

i'm really not trying to be called a loser again for defining rating so you got that.

 You Again? Is there still no block button on this website? I am being reminded real fast why I have hardly posted here in months. 

Then don't post lmao

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

It's bc it's airing with survivor. But yeah these numbers are not the best but have been increasing which is a good thing. Let's see what the numbers for the past all stars seasons look like lol 

About the same. But that airs on a paid streaming service that no one is watching. This is on freaking MTV which is in every hotel, hospital and still in most homes in America. There's no reason the ratings should be as bad as All Stars. 

Only about 56% of America have cable this is down from 76% a few years ago. Acting like everyone has access to this channel when cable is basically dead is a wild take

Not acting like everyone has access to cable I'm stating the fact that more people Have access to MTV over Paramount +.  

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

I agree with Chavo that the nostalgia factor should bring in more people than the current cast.

I'm shocked All Stars hasn't been on tv/streaming in a year and a half. It's a critical darling if nothing else. It helps the brand so much.

I still think the biggest issue is having this compete with Survivor, which is already more popular. Doesn't help MTV has become known for being the Ridiculousness network so most people watching already watch this show. Coupled with the fact casuals hate anything related to change. And for what it's worth, the season is watchable, the editing is off but that's BEEN a problem for a while now. I don't think this is a bad season, but the revolving door of rookies since WOTW has made it harder for anyone to build a solid following into this season. Big T and Melissa are probably the biggest draws and I doubt Jay/Michele brought over that many viewers from Survivor but any potential discussion surrounding them is clouded by both shows airing at the same time.

And, this should be on Paramount Plus the next day. I'm not saying that service is doing that well, but people at least might tune in on there as opposed to watching it live. It doesn't even make rational sense to have the show rely only on TV views since that's a dying breed.

Also, AS in general is never going to bring in that many numbers as a live product. If they wanted to they could've aired it and put it on P+ right after each other, but it's not going to be the ratings darling y'all act like it is.

I do think they should've put AS1 on MTV after it aired to gauge interest and see if future seasons had any place on the network. But, that's it.

It's bc it's airing with survivor. But yeah these numbers are not the best but have been increasing which is a good thing. Let's see what the numbers for the past all stars seasons look like lol 

About the same. But that airs on a paid streaming service that no one is watching. This is on freaking MTV which is in every hotel, hospital and still in most homes in America. There's no reason the ratings should be as bad as All Stars. 

Only about 56% of America have cable this is down from 76% a few years ago. Acting like everyone has access to this channel when cable is basically dead is a wild take

Also, I think non-die hard fans maybe forget that MTV occasionally shows things that are not Ridiculousness still.

Also, AS in general is never going to bring in that many numbers as a live product. If they wanted to they could've aired it and put it on P+ right after each other, but it's not going to be the ratings darling y'all act like it is.

I do think they should've put AS1 on MTV after it aired to gauge interest and see if future seasons had any place on the network. But, that's it.

I don't think any logical fan think AS4 would smash more than the main show in ratings I just think many think it'll be a better product to be out for the franchise than whatever is airing rn -- if pretty much nobodies that's on now can pull almost 500K then a season with some notable names can pull that as well 

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

I agree with Chavo that the nostalgia factor should bring in more people than the current cast.

I'm shocked All Stars hasn't been on tv/streaming in a year and a half. It's a critical darling if nothing else. It helps the brand so much.

The people that have Nostagia for those people aren't in the more important demo in ratings anymore. All stars promo should start very soon last I heard 

 I can only imagine a show with ppl like Steve/ Cynthia/ Flora/ Roni/ Tina/ Janelle/ Kendal/ Averey/ Jay/ Tyrie/ MJ/ Derrick/ etc that haven't been on show in years will do rating wise.

It would probably do around the same as a show withCoreyLay/Asaf/Ed/Jujuy/Olivia/Emmanuel/Berna etc. only difference is the people you mentioned are actually interesting & capable still of making entertaining television as already proven, meanwhile those I mentioned are bringing in the show's worst ratings in the history of the show. 

I agree with Chavo that the nostalgia factor should bring in more people than the current cast.

I'm shocked All Stars hasn't been on tv/streaming in a year and a half. It's a critical darling if nothing else. It helps the brand so much.

The people that have Nostagia for those people aren't in the more important demo in ratings anymore. All stars promo should start very soon last I heard 

LET'S GOOOOOO

I don't have MTV so I am waiting until the show is over then I will download the whole season and binge it.  I assume it won't be on Paramount Plus which I do have anytime soon.

It went up ! Number 9 on cable 

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/12/tv-ratings-for-wednesday-6th-december.html?m=1

Episode 8- Viewed by 419,000 people and received a 0.19 rating in the 18-49 demographic.

The past two weeks have been doing better than Jersey Shore 

This season is having a come back 

Yassssss haha to all the people who said this was a flop 

It's a flop.

It went up ! Number 9 on cable 

https://www.spoilertv.com/2023/12/tv-ratings-for-wednesday-6th-december.html?m=1

Episode 8- Viewed by 419,000 people and received a 0.19 rating in the 18-49 demographic.

The past two weeks have been doing better than Jersey Shore 

Number 1 show on mtv right now the 3 days delayed ratings are over 1 million

It's a flop.

 Over 1 million views I think not 

if I was production i'd do another season with no vets and see how long this works 

This season would've been better with Ayanna in it.

imagine the ratings if they had no vets showing up lol