The Challenge: Battle of The Exes 2 - Zach Nichols and Jonna Mannion

Yep Zach is leaner. He weighs 215 now.

I'm not reading anything in this thread unless someone replies because of annoying spoilers.

But I just watched Jonna/Zach's video on the facebook page and it annoys me so much how people **** shame Jonna to this day. I don't get it. At most she hooks up with 1 guy per season. Why don't girls that hook up with multiple people ever get called out? Multiple people on these shows have cheated on their partners, Jonna is one of the FEW to admit to it and realize she was wrong.

It's so annoying how people just label her as a **** who sucks at challenges. Did they not watch Rivals 1? People get on my damn nerves. I hope she whoops *** WITHOUT Zach's help so all these jealous brats can shut up.

Have you not read what these people talk about? They practically trash Nany for hooking up with guys the way she does.

Please don't start the Nany bashing. It gets really ******* old.

I'm confused. Where did she write Nany on her post? Plenty of girls have done their dirt on this show, secretly and and in public. 

I'm not reading anything in this thread unless someone replies because of annoying spoilers.

But I just watched Jonna/Zach's video on the facebook page and it annoys me so much how people **** shame Jonna to this day. I don't get it. At most she hooks up with 1 guy per season. Why don't girls that hook up with multiple people ever get called out? Multiple people on these shows have cheated on their partners, Jonna is one of the FEW to admit to it and realize she was wrong.

It's so annoying how people just label her as a **** who sucks at challenges. Did they not watch Rivals 1? People get on my damn nerves. I hope she whoops *** WITHOUT Zach's help so all these jealous brats can shut up.

Have you not read what these people talk about? They practically trash Nany for hooking up with guys the way she does.

Please don't start the Nany bashing. It gets really ******* old.

I'm confused. Where did she write Nany on her post? Plenty of girls have done their dirt on this show, secretly and and in public. 

She didn't write Nany, but she's one of the girls that gets shitted on for her hook ups.

I'm not reading anything in this thread unless someone replies because of annoying spoilers.

But I just watched Jonna/Zach's video on the facebook page and it annoys me so much how people **** shame Jonna to this day. I don't get it. At most she hooks up with 1 guy per season. Why don't girls that hook up with multiple people ever get called out? Multiple people on these shows have cheated on their partners, Jonna is one of the FEW to admit to it and realize she was wrong.

It's so annoying how people just label her as a **** who sucks at challenges. Did they not watch Rivals 1? People get on my damn nerves. I hope she whoops *** WITHOUT Zach's help so all these jealous brats can shut up.

Have you not read what these people talk about? They practically trash Nany for hooking up with guys the way she does.

Please don't start the Nany bashing. It gets really ******* old.

I'm confused. Where did she write Nany on her post? Plenty of girls have done their dirt on this show, secretly and and in public. 

She didn't write Nany, but she's one of the girls that gets shitted on for her hook ups.

Exactly. So your whole " Please don't start the Nany bashing" makes no sense. 

I'm not reading anything in this thread unless someone replies because of annoying spoilers.

But I just watched Jonna/Zach's video on the facebook page and it annoys me so much how people **** shame Jonna to this day. I don't get it. At most she hooks up with 1 guy per season. Why don't girls that hook up with multiple people ever get called out? Multiple people on these shows have cheated on their partners, Jonna is one of the FEW to admit to it and realize she was wrong.

It's so annoying how people just label her as a **** who sucks at challenges. Did they not watch Rivals 1? People get on my damn nerves. I hope she whoops *** WITHOUT Zach's help so all these jealous brats can shut up.

Have you not read what these people talk about? They practically trash Nany for hooking up with guys the way she does.

Please don't start the Nany bashing. It gets really ******* old.

I'm confused. Where did she write Nany on her post? Plenty of girls have done their dirt on this show, secretly and and in public. 

She didn't write Nany, but she's one of the girls that gets shitted on for her hook ups.

Exactly. So your whole " Please don't start the Nany bashing" makes no sense. 

I wrote my response based on what was bolded. I said don't start the Nany bashing as precaution.

But obviously what doesn't make sense, doesn't make sense.

Oh gawd!!! LOL! That was very unintentionally funny and super super awkward. You can tell Jonna is still very pissed at Zach over the past. She's trying to play it off and be cool about it but she has this look on her face during the whole interview like she just smelled something really bad, lol.  I hope those two can eventually get on better terms, at least make up and become friends. 

I don't know, they look really uncomfortable on this. 

Yeah they do. Zach looking down at the ground when Jonna was explaining why their relationship didn't work out....how they moved to California together and it was too soon, then his trying not to laugh when Jonna said I think Zach is happy that it's me and not one of his other exes. Like I said in my other post, maybe working together in the challenges will at least help them to mend fences enough to come out of this as friends. I don't know though. If that were me and I knew who I was going to be paired up with before the show started and that there was still tension, I believe I'd try to make a pre-show phone call to the person to just clear some things up, so by the time I got to the challenge location and sat for the pre-show interview that it wouldn't be so awkward, lol. 

Ashley Kelsey is a great competitor especially now that she does crossfit with Frank. She is definitely better than Jonna. Jonna is a good competitor though so he got lucky all of his Exes are decent competitors. Zach says Ashley gets on his nerves so maybe he would have rather been with Jonna? Who knows.

Zach does look a lot leaner and alot better shape than usual. His performance on the FA final probably made him want to get leaner so good for him.

When did he say that? He's a jerk!

Why he is a jerk? Because he cannot tolerate Ashley K? Well as much of a boring wallpaper that she is, she was the only smart ex from this shows that cheated on him and dump him before getting dump...totally understandable, she hurt his ego.

I am glad he is with Jonna for the simple fact that this team is the definition of what this concept is supposed to be about Real Exes that have drama between each other until this day. While with ashley k he already resolved his issues with and Ashlee they were on good on terms, plus she most likely would never do a challenge at this point.

just because ashley kelsey is more vocal about working out doesnt mean she is a better athlete than jonna. some people just like being attention ****** on social media with this whole crossfit cult and kelsey comes across as one of them to me with all the excessive validation needing pictures of her *** and working out. i personally wasnt impressed with her at all on seasons. she wrestled jasmine out of the ring after a good struggle, she finished the final, big deal, jonna would've as well and arguably would've helped her team finish faster because she would've been able to solve those puzzles that allowed brooklyn to catch up to them. other girls that would've done the final with similar ease or possibly more; laurel, sarah, evelyn, jodi, rachel, emily, kelly anne, camila, theresa, nany, paula, jenn, diem, cara maria and yes probably jonna....and they have all shown more as overall competitors. the eliminatio round match between them was also relatively close considering that jonna had the far inferior partner derek.

i get why people think crossfit helps but its not the only way to workout and improve for the challenge. its not as if jonna sits on her *** all day and eats potato chips without moving a muscle because she is clearly in good shape too and for a lot of people, your physical shape doesnt dictate what kind of athleticism you have. in the military we used to have guys that could go on 15 mile hikes with 100lb bags at the drop of penny but still had big bellies and an overall not so in shape, shape. in rafting it was the same thing, the most physically active people there that do the craziest, most physically strenuous activities were always flabby as hell. aesthetics and function are two different things. sure ther eis a correlation but not alwyas. right off the top of my head, sarah/laurel/camila are some of the best around and they are nowhere near ripped

jonna and zach are very yin and yang because they balance each other's weaknesses and strengths out so perfectly. if you had ashkley K and zach you would just have dumb and dumber. there is ntohing that ashley K can do that Zach can't. i would take ashlee F though

Ashley Kelsey is a great competitor especially now that she does crossfit with Frank. She is definitely better than Jonna. Jonna is a good competitor though so he got lucky all of his Exes are decent competitors. Zach says Ashley gets on his nerves so maybe he would have rather been with Jonna? Who knows.

Zach does look a lot leaner and alot better shape than usual. His performance on the FA final probably made him want to get leaner so good for him.

When did he say that? He's a jerk!

Why he is a jerk? Because he cannot tolerate Ashley K? Well as much of a boring wallpaper that she is, she was the only smart ex from this shows that cheated on him and dump him before getting dump...totally understandable, she hurt his ego. I am glad he is with Jonna for the simple fact that this team is the definition of what this concept is supposed to be about Real Exes that have drama between each other until this day. While with ashley k he already resolved his issues with and Ashlee they were on good on terms, plus she most likely would never do a challenge at this point.

What are you even talking about? How do you know Ashley cheated on Zach? That's a very serious statement, you shouldn't be saying things like that unless you're 100% sure of it.

Ashley and Zach obviously have more drama than Zach and Jonna. As you said, he's still bitter about the way their relashionship ended. He's used to being the one who dumps the girl but in this case, Ashley dumped him and I have a feeling he still holds a grudge against her because of it. I think they would've been more interesting to watch as a team, but whatever. I'm happy Ashley is not on this challenge because I would've been forced to root for Zach and I really don't like him but since he's paired with Jonna, who is almost just as bad as him, I will gladly root against them.

I still wish it were Zach & Ashlee.

I still wish it were Zach & Ashlee.

Ashley Kelsey is a great competitor especially now that she does crossfit with Frank. She is definitely better than Jonna. Jonna is a good competitor though so he got lucky all of his Exes are decent competitors. Zach says Ashley gets on his nerves so maybe he would have rather been with Jonna? Who knows.

Zach does look a lot leaner and alot better shape than usual. His performance on the FA final probably made him want to get leaner so good for him.

When did he say that? He's a jerk!

Why he is a jerk? Because he cannot tolerate Ashley K? Well as much of a boring wallpaper that she is, she was the only smart ex from this shows that cheated on him and dump him before getting dump...totally understandable, she hurt his ego. I am glad he is with Jonna for the simple fact that this team is the definition of what this concept is supposed to be about Real Exes that have drama between each other until this day. While with ashley k he already resolved his issues with and Ashlee they were on good on terms, plus she most likely would never do a challenge at this point.

What are you even talking about? How do you know Ashley cheated on Zach? That's a very serious statement, you shouldn't be saying things like that unless you're 100% sure of it.

Ashley and Zach obviously have more drama than Zach and Jonna. As you said, he's still bitter about the way their relashionship ended. He's used to being the one who dumps the girl but in this case, Ashley dumped him and I have a feeling he still holds a grudge against her because of it. I think they would've been more interesting to watch as a team, but whatever. I'm happy Ashley is not on this challenge because I would've been forced to root for Zach and I really don't like him but since he's paired with Jonna, who is almost just as bad as him, I will gladly root against them.

It came from his rebound chick Danni From BGC and one of my sources that was on Battle of the seasons with her/until this day that person is close with her. They know exactly why they broke up, Zach deserved it and I am glad she was smart enough to do it lol

At this point every issue and bitternes they had was resolved on Battle of the seasons. Both of them are over When they were in a team together they were boring, production knew it that's why they didn't really care about having them together. It's not like their dynamic is as hilarious/dramatic as Knight/Jemmye and as amazing as Diem/CT to make them repeated. They didn't try like they did with Heather for Dustin, they called her until a week before departure because they knew that team was equal drama and was one of the mst popular relationship from Real World on the past 10 seasons.

Plus Zach have 2 exes that would have bring more drama/tension and ten times way better for the theme, obvious choices over Ashley:

1. Ashlee: Fresh break up and she was really hurt...Obvioulsy she wasn't going to do it,seious job to leave for 6 weeks.

2. Jonna:  Moved out togeteher in LA one day wake up and he moved to Boston , then she found out he was living with Ashlee. Didn't talk for 2 years and cast/production noticed the tension betwen them on both Rivals 2/Free Agents.

Ashley Kelsey is a great competitor especially now that she does crossfit with Frank. She is definitely better than Jonna. Jonna is a good competitor though so he got lucky all of his Exes are decent competitors. Zach says Ashley gets on his nerves so maybe he would have rather been with Jonna? Who knows.

Zach does look a lot leaner and alot better shape than usual. His performance on the FA final probably made him want to get leaner so good for him.

When did he say that? He's a jerk!

In an afterbuzz interview during Seasons he said she was annoying and a nuisance at the VMAS. Also another interview (can't remember which was one) he said she is a nice person but annoying. I think he was only saying that because she actually dumped him and he was bitter about it.

ALTHOUGH I can agree that some people hype her up a bit. (It pains me to say this because she's obviously my favorite contestant on the show hence the profile pic). I've seen people say a thousand times over "She'd be great for a final!!" Until I see her in one, I expect her to run out of gas pretty quickly. But yeah besides that she really isn't a bad competitor. She's not Emily, Laurel, or even Cara Maria but she can hold her own up against the rest of the average girls and i'd give her a 50/50 win rate up against the girls like her. So yeah

Ugh I really want to read more arguments about this but i'm in so much fear of the potential hinting of spoilers (which I suspect has already happened in this thread). It happens every single year on these public forums and i'm tired of complaining about it so i'm just gonna not read the rest of this even if someone replies to my post.

Peace to the middle east!

I'm not a Jonna fan mostly because I found her incredibly annoying and mostly kind of a ****** person on her RW season, then a couple seasons went by and she returned on Rivals and I actually shockingly liked her (I REALLY couldn't stand her on Cancun). But then she annoyed me on BOTSeasons again. I can barely remember why but it didn't help that episode 1 she was like "I'm gonna break up with my BF because I'm FINALLY gonna be able to kiss Zach" (again, "finally......in episode 1") and I was like "Oh great, Jonna's back to her old ways" and then she just mostly annoyed me that season for other game-related issues "OMG I'm poor put Jasmine in" (again, I forget the actual reasons but it was something like that). Now, I don't dislike her as much because honestly she's mostly just boring and doesn't do much at all to me one way or the other. So, I'm just kind of meh about her now.

Plus, everybody goes on and on about how hot she is and I just never saw it. She looks better now with her longer hair though but before I was like WTF. I just didn't get it but different strokes and all that.

How is losing to Laurel/Aneesa a strike against her? With how phyiscal elimination rounds are, Jonna is very unlikely to win an elimination round with how small/thin she is.

Jonna has shown she is at a decent athlete. Cory has videos on his instagram of hin training with her. CJ even said Jonna was good.
She and Zack will do well over all.
However, I am more concerned with Zack being shirtless, or in a speedo, or a towel, really I just want Zack exploited as much as possible.

How is losing to Laurel/Aneesa a strike against her? With how phyiscal elimination rounds are, Jonna is very unlikely to win an elimination round with how small/thin she is.

So Jonna gets a pass everytime she loses to someone who weighs more than her? Lol she's trash. 

She is by no means an athlete. She's just another bimbo who cheated on a loyal bf with Zach of all ppl. She's kind of cute, I'll give her that, but not that much.

Jonna has shown she is at a decent athlete. Cory has videos on his instagram of hin training with her. CJ even said Jonna was good.
She and Zack will do well over all.
However, I am more concerned with Zack being shirtless, or in a speedo, or a towel, really I just want Zack exploited as much as possible.

******* yes!

Jonna has shown she is at a decent athlete. Cory has videos on his instagram of hin training with her. CJ even said Jonna was good.
She and Zack will do well over all.
However, I am more concerned with Zack being shirtless, or in a speedo, or a towel, really I just want Zack exploited as much as possible.

******* yes!

See, Jaime and I see eye to eye. Who cares about competition, bring on the eye candy.
Except, jaime likes bananas and i don't. Unless bananas decides to go to adult films like I predict, i don't care to watch him.

Jonna has shown she is at a decent athlete. Cory has videos on his instagram of hin training with her. CJ even said Jonna was good. She and Zack will do well over all. However, I am more concerned with Zack being shirtless, or in a speedo, or a towel, really I just want Zack exploited as much as possible.

******* yes!

See, Jaime and I see eye to eye. Who cares about competition, bring on the eye candy. Except, jaime likes bananas and i don't. Unless bananas decides to go to adult films like I predict, i don't care to watch him.

Hey I'll jump on this wagon too. I want to see Zach with as less clothing on as possible. I'm  always appreciative of Eye Candy.

Merry Christmas Coralfan.

Merry Christmas Coralfan.

Woah baby!

Merry Christmas Coralfan.

That pic is hot. Not gonna lie.

I'm in love with Jonna.  No joke.  Really hope she makes the final.

I am starting to feel like they are going to be one of the most dysfuctional team up there with johnny/Averey lol they were one the few that actually dated and he seem to dislike her a lot and she wrote this on twitter:

I am starting to feel like they are going to be one of the most dysfuctional team up there with johnny/Averey lol they were one the few that actually dated and he seem to dislike her a lot and she wrote this on twitter:

Agreed. So far he has been a complete *** about her. I  feel bad for her because it seems like she actually loved him and he didn't feel that way at all.