The Challenge: All Stars 5 Rivals - A Race for the Stars

I'm still holding out hope Veronica and Katie get brought back in and win. They deserve a lot of money for the amount of weight they carried while carrying the whole season 

The shows brand? The format is what hurts it, having janky eliminations where men compete against women hurts it far more than sam being out of shape.

The shows brand? The format is what hurts it, having janky eliminations where men compete against women hurts it far more than sam being out of shape.

Both things can be true? Like the format and the janky games can be bad AND no one that's as out of shape as Sam or Aneesa or Big Easy should be on this show UNLESS they are super entertaining and bring something else to the table.

The shows brand? The format is what hurts it, having janky eliminations where men compete against women hurts it far more than sam being out of shape.

Both things can be true? Like the format and the janky games can be bad AND no one that's as out of shape as Sam or Aneesa or Big Easy should be on this show UNLESS they are super entertaining and bring something else to the table.

don't fat shame, it's not a good look. Just because someone is heavier doesn't mean they can't compete and shouldn't have a spot. 

Okay and Big Easy did MANY seasons, yet this show is not canceled. You're being insane tbh.

But Easy shouldn't have been cast--not sure how that's making an argument for Sam

The shows brand? The format is what hurts it, having janky eliminations where men compete against women hurts it far more than sam being out of shape.

This is also true.  If they're going to cast people "out of shape" though it has to be people like Veronica and Katie that still play.  Sam did nothing.

Veronica controlled the politics for 75% of the season. I have absolutely no problem with her inclusion on any season. Would I like for her to have dropped 30 pounds and get back to a competitive level of Dirty 30? Absolutely. But she still earns her spot.

Sam...as pleasant as she is, doesn't control the politics, doesn't contribute significantly to the drama, and anything that requires...I don't know...a borderline compentency of shape, she embarrasses herself.

If she wants to get serious and drop 60 pounds and come back for All Stars 7 or 8, that's completely fine. But the fact that they have to make janky/goofy dailies and eliminations just so the unskilled and unhealthy can "belong", is absolutely hurting the show's legitimacy.

Everyone wants the silly carnival games back but the general audience absolutely hates them. This is a completely different show than 20 years ago. It had to evolve to stay on the air.

^ I hear what you're saying but this is All Stars. Personally I don't think Sam should be on a flagship season, but she definitely has a place on any All Stars season and the carnival games (which I hate for the mainshow) are what they have to do if we're wanting OGs who are pushing 50 and out of shape. Also, you're acting like being overweight is the only factor to someone being non-athletic when we've seen people be terrible competitors who aren't fat. 

^ I hear what you're saying but this is All Stars. Personally I don't think Sam should be on a flagship season, but she definitely has a place on any All Stars season and the carnival games (which I hate for the mainshow) are what they have to do if we're wanting OGs who are pushing 50 and out of shape. Also, you're acting like being overweight is the only factor to someone being non-athletic when we've seen people be terrible competitors who aren't fat. 

Yeah but every terrible, non-fat competitor, sans Josh, gets dropped pretty quickly. I also don't want uncoordinated, unathletic normal people either. They make for easy targets and make the show way more boring and predictable.

Fat people can do well on the challenge and this has been proven time and time again. Let em eat to their tummy's delight, and let them mfs compete too.

^ I hear what you're saying but this is All Stars. Personally I don't think Sam should be on a flagship season, but she definitely has a place on any All Stars season and the carnival games (which I hate for the mainshow) are what they have to do if we're wanting OGs who are pushing 50 and out of shape. Also, you're acting like being overweight is the only factor to someone being non-athletic when we've seen people be terrible competitors who aren't fat. 

If you're "non-athletic" you have to be strategic--you have to bring something to "the game".  Someone could look like a Greek God but if they lack coorindation and can't play the game they're useless.

Shane & Davonne were impressive, it's too bad Frank sabotaged them. 

I like this format of the final because with editing you can actualy see who's leading and doing well. 

Fat people can do well on the challenge and this has been proven time and time again. Let em eat to their tummy's delight, and let them mfs compete too.

...who? When? I legit cannot think of a super plus-sized person that's done well on this. Aneesa?

Who do yall think would win a season with only overweight players? Sam, Aneesa, Sharon, Big Easy, Donnell, Veronica, CT, Jisela, Shauvon, or Jon?

Fat people can do well on the challenge and this has been proven time and time again. Let em eat to their tummy's delight, and let them mfs compete too.

...who? When? I legit cannot think of a super plus-sized person that's done well on this. Aneesa?

Jisela comes to mind.

Fat people can do well on the challenge and this has been proven time and time again. Let em eat to their tummy's delight, and let them mfs compete too.

...who? When? I legit cannot think of a super plus-sized person that's done well on this. Aneesa?

Jisela comes to mind.

I mean she tore her ACL and got purged at the start of the final but yes, she performed well over the course of the season, I would say.

Fat people can do well on the challenge and this has been proven time and time again. Let em eat to their tummy's delight, and let them mfs compete too.

...who? When? I legit cannot think of a super plus-sized person that's done well on this. Aneesa?

Jisela comes to mind.

I mean she tore her ACL and got purged at the start of the final but yes, she performed well over the course of the season, I would say.

She was a solid well rounded competitor, did better than like almost everyone in the first challenge which was very physical. All these gym rats and in shape people were gassing out.

People called Beth fat all the time during The Duel yet she would've won that season had she not gotten eliminated over a stupid DQ.

Nicole and Sam fighting on live??? 

https://x.com/fessthamess/status/1910139202521518469?s=46&t=uMt8gikLCyz5LvsEphxDvA

*****

People called Beth fat all the time during The Duel yet she would've won that season had she not gotten eliminated over a stupid DQ.

Beth was not fat though...

People called Beth fat all the time during The Duel yet she would've won that season had she not gotten eliminated over a stupid DQ.

Beth was not fat though...

The early 2000s body standards for women had any woman over 100 pounds called fat.

Sam's legacy on The Challenge being 2/2 on finals while losing butt Cory or Leroy or Nany who have done a thousand seasons combined and are every season to just be humilliated.

Sam McGinn, the legend that you are, having all of those who think that the Challenge is the olympics or some kind of serious shit pressed. I hope she continuos to get casted so all the freaks can stay ranting about her legacy

Sam is gonna come back FIT and show Aneesa how it's done!

People called Beth fat all the time during The Duel yet she would've won that season had she not gotten eliminated over a stupid DQ.

I dont think she would have won.....but she for sure had a chance at the final.  

If she wasnt such a trouble maker she could have won G2 or G3.  

G2 she was probably 3rd or 4th best girl under Ruthie, Julie, maybe Robin

G3 she was probably 4th under Coral, Evelyn, Paula

People called Beth fat all the time during The Duel yet she would've won that season had she not gotten eliminated over a stupid DQ.

Beth was not fat though...

The early 2000s body standards for women had any woman over 100 pounds called fat.

Yep same case with Katie and Tina. And then you have RW Austin Rachel (who also was no stick figure herself) calling Jenn "chubby." 

They were all very inappropriately labeled at that time. 

Ok, just watched the finale and I feel for Frank. That sucks having a partner you know has zero chance of winning. Sam did píşś me off like if you know youre coming back put a little effort in training.

Ok, just watched the finale and I feel for Frank. That sucks having a partner you know has zero chance of winning. Sam did píşś me off like if you know youre coming back put a little effort in training.

...yup.

Nicole and Sam fighting on live??? 

https://x.com/fessthamess/status/1910139202521518469?s=46&t=uMt8gikLCyz5LvsEphxDvA

Omg, that was the funniest shit ever. Sam so hurt Nicole is coming for her messing up the lesbian bro-code.

If Veronica and Katie were in this final it would have been sad to watch.

I'm liking this final. The pacing is great, I can actually watch the entire thing. Overall this season has been great.