Well so what if she can't hold her own in an argument...she sure as hell can hold her own in a challenge which is what counts..challenges aren't arguing contests where if you can argue with someone the best you win the challenge..nope that isn't the case.

Veronica is simply one of the best to have played the game and this one shouldn't be any different. I don't think she will get nominated into a Ruin at all I may be wrong though?

rey2pokey;115815 wrote:
Veronica is simply one of the best to have played the game and this one shouldn't be any different. I don't think she will get nominated into a Ruin at all I may be wrong though?

Eh, if there was more real Vets on the challenge then I think she'd stand a better chance at not getting voted in. She used to be respected and um do I dare say "feared", but now there's a whole new generation of castmembers who will stand up to her. Take Ev for example, not that they're on bad terms with eahc other or anything, but she's the kind of person that despite who you are, she'll stand up to you if she needs.

Morris1721;115822 wrote:
Eh, if there was more real Vets on the challenge then I think she'd stand a better chance at not getting voted in. She used to be respected and um do I dare say "feared", but now there's a whole new generation of castmembers who will stand up to her. Take Ev for example, not that they're on bad terms with eahc other or anything, but she's the kind of person that despite who you are, she'll stand up to you if she needs.

Wow, you made me notice that most every time you are absent from challenges newer generation vets take over the game.

Yeah the newer generation vets are taking over...more of the older generation vets need to re-take over these challenges..like Rachel, Veronica, Tina, Mark and others...I'm tired of Evan and Kenny flying through these challenges and being the top dogs. These Fresh Meat kids are taking over these challenges and the true challenge top dogs need to come back and take what's theirs.

I bet the game has changed alot from the first challenge lol

rey2pokey;115824 wrote:
Wow, you made me notice that most every time you are absent from challenges newer generation vets take over the game.

Yupp, lets see, Veronica has missed 7 challenges since her last, which was the Inferno 2. From the 28 castmembers from the Ruins, only 10 have been on challenges from the Inferno 2 and back. (Derrick, Veronica, Ibis, Tonya, Katie, Susie, Syrus, Brad, Adam, and Darrell). So Veronica will only really know those other 9, besides seeing the others on tv or meeting them outside challenges, but everybody changes when they go into Challenge mode haha. I actually think that'd be a pretty strong alliance of those 10, pretty strong and smart.

Morris1721;115851 wrote:
Yupp, lets see, Veronica has missed 7 challenges since her last, which was the Inferno 2. From the 28 castmembers from the Ruins, only 10 have been on challenges from the Inferno 2 and back. (Derrick, Veronica, Ibis, Tonya, Katie, Susie, Syrus, Brad, Adam, and Darrell). So Veronica will only really know those other 9, besides seeing the others on tv or meeting them outside challenges, but everybody changes when they go into Challenge mode haha. I actually think that'd be a pretty strong alliance of those 10, pretty strong and smart.

That would be a Perfect Veteran Alliance but Brad,Derrick,Katie and Tonya may lean toward the newer generation because they have been present on the newer challenges.....Possibility?

rey2pokey;115862 wrote:
That would be a Perfect Veteran Alliance but Brad,Derrick,Katie and Tonya may lean toward the newer generation because they have been present on the newer challenges.....Possibility?

Yeah I agree, that alliance would be good and they could probably run the challenge but your right, during the mesh between Old School and New School challenges (Fresh Meat/Duel) Derrick, Katie, Brad, Tonya, Coral, Robin, Aneesa, CT, Beth, and some others kind of got dragged in. Now when it comes to Coral, CT, and Beth, they never got too buddy-buddy with the new castmember like the rest did. And since Veronica wasn't around at the time, she's gonna seem kinda of out of place with these new people, just like Rachel did on the Island.

The best challenge ever would include Aneesa, Coral, Katie, Veronica, Tonya, Tina, Brad, Mark, CT, Adam etc....and only a couple of fresh faces including Cancun.

rey2pokey;115893 wrote:
The best challenge ever would include Aneesa, Coral, Katie, Veronica, Tonya, Tina, Brad, Mark, CT, Adam etc....and only a couple of fresh faces including Cancun.

everyone you just named was on BOT2 together... minus CT.

did you mean BOTSexes2

rey2pokey;116216 wrote:
did you mean BOTSexes2

Well yea- there wasn't a Battle of the Seasons 2... although I wouldn't mind seeing that.

That would be *********!

Veronica is the original Paula.

nahhh Paula is kinda annoying...Veronica is beast. I don't see any similarities..please enlighten me.

I meant that they both did numerous challenges without breaks.

Oh ok..that I can agree with.

salt&vinegar;116434 wrote:
I meant that they both did numerous challenges without breaks.

That's about all they have in common. Veronica at least has won challenges.

Lamb Chop!!!;116924 wrote:
That's about all they have in common. Veronica at least has won challenges.

And she doesn't come across as desperate. The ironic thing is, Paula is the last person from her season that I expected to do a challenge, we see how correct I was.

Paula did 5 and Veronica did how many? EDIT: messed up on the name :)

This is Veronica's 8th. That's the most any castmember has done and it's also Derrick, Katie, and Tonya's 8th. Unless you were talking in a row, then Veronica did 6 in a row I believe. BOTSeasons, BOTSexes, Gauntlet, Inferno, BOTSexes 2, Inferno 2. Derrick and Kenny also did 5 in a row and believe it or not, the most Tonya has done in a row is 2.

This could be her last, I hope not! *knocking on wood*

rey2pokey;116958 wrote:
This could be her last, I hope not! *knocking on wood*

I agree. She is by far my favorite on the challenges, and I'm so glad she came back along with some of the older cast members. I think most of the new kids try too hard.

I am pretty sure this is her last, but it looks like her swan song was pretty damn good!

I think she should finish up strong with 2 more challenges and winning both of them!!!

Morris1721;116957 wrote:
This is Veronica's 8th. That's the most any castmember has done and it's also Derrick, Katie, and Tonya's 8th. Unless you were talking in a row, then Veronica did 6 in a row I believe. BOTSeasons, BOTSexes, Gauntlet, Inferno, BOTSexes 2, Inferno 2. Derrick and Kenny also did 5 in a row and believe it or not, the most Tonya has done in a row is 2.

Derrick tied V's record for six in a row. (BOTS2, I2, G2, FM, Duel, I3).

jr588;117134 wrote:
Derrick tied V's record for six in a row. (BOTS2, I2, G2, FM, Duel, I3).

you forgot the Island!

rey2pokey;117151 wrote:
you forgot the Island!

Gauntlet 3 was before the Island.

I feel like this could be Veronica's last challenge as well...as much as I don't wanna say it. She even said challenges weren't for her so The Ruins could be her last one..but I think she should do 1 or 2 more.