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Alex has a good vocal and last scene of the Episode pretty much explains a lot with what's going on this season. Without Ashley ,if the threw in a dramatic girl like Jemmye type character this season ...
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Gdsimmons;289915 wrote:I'm fine with that. She has a beautiful voice, so it is a good sell.
Lol at them throwing Alex and her "singing" career in the last 3 minutes of the show
Gdsimmons;289915 wrote:I'm fine with that. She has a beautiful voice, so it is a good sell.
Lol at them throwing Alex and her "singing" career in the last 3 minutes of the show
Npresh24;289920 wrote:Agreed.
Alex has a good vocal and last scene of the Episode pretty much explains a lot with what's going on this season.Without Ashley ,if the threw in a dramatic girl like Jemmye type character this season would have been better
ILoveRW;290045 wrote:Cancun...Brooklyn...D.C.???
I loved this episode, I actually like watching the whole dynamic of a split house, we have never really seen it before.
stellablue;290077 wrote:Off-topic, but yes; I am 99% sure it will take place in a city they have already been to.
Anyone have any leads on where the next season will take place? I used to love the Real World. Loved the old school Road Rules as well, but the last few RW seasons have been so lame :(
stellablue;290077 wrote:I truly believe that B2NO and B2LV were reviving the show... the show's audience was building up again (see how B2SD premiered with nearly 2M viewers), but then the huge drop happened because this season is just... not good. Although, I must say that I enjoyed Wednesday's episodes a lot more than the other episodes they've shown this season. It was nice to see them out of the house and actually having a bit of fun, not Frank screaming and being annoying. Frank is the only person on the cast that I think is at least a bit interesting for TV, but due to the fact that he's super annoying, I prefer to not see him on my TV screen (which sucks, because this season revolves around him, which makes it even more sucky for me... lol). Oh well. Maybe next season will be better.
the last few RW seasons have been so lame :(
jesses_girl;290095 wrote:I made it 50 seconds. ****, he's awkward.
Derrick talks to Zach, Ashley, and Ruthie. It's pretty interesting. Derrick Kosinski's 'Ultimate Challenge Radio' Podcast: "Zach and Ashley Break Down all the Drama Surrounding Real World:San Diego
molds13;290098 wrote:Derrick has been pretty bad on these last few without Johnny Mark or Kenny. Anytime he talks about gay issues I cringe because he sounds terrible.
I made it 50 seconds. ****, he's awkward.
brunett;290227 wrote:He answered that question in the podcast with Derrick and Ruthie at ultimatechallengeradio.com Also, they never said they weren't open to new things. If that were the case then they wouldn't hang out with each other much either lol. They met new people, they just didn't like some of the people they met. There's no problem with that. The Real World isn't a place to find new best friends. It's an experiment to show the lives of 7 strangers who have to live together. That's it. It's not in the contract to become bffs with all the roommates. That is real life, some people like you and some don't.
Honestly, I couldn't stand Frank at the beginning of the show, but I now kinda see a bit where he's coming from with the Ashley and Zack thing. Ashley and Zack both say they're not open to new people, new places, new lifestyles, new best friends, etc. They both say they're not into hooking up randomly and are about self-control and virtue and all of that nonsense. And there's nothing wrong with any of this, all of this would be absolutely FINE except that they signed up to be on THE REAL WORLD, which basically represents everything they claim to shun and want to get away from, so it's weird. I think Ashley probably was there to promote her modeling career, but what about Zack? Why'd he audtion, sign up and go through such a lengthly casting process to be on a show that represents everything he hates?
JL81790;290102 wrote:I’m glad Derrick is doing these podcasts, but he should do them more often (like when Rivals was on) and also he should really do his research, I mean he said he was watching them in a weird order, but it sounded like the last episode he saw was episode 5, and episode 9 had already aired! And you're right, they're not as good as with Johnny; Derrick has no direction, he always loses his train of thought, and Johnny is good at keeping him on track.
Derrick has been pretty bad on these last few without Johnny Mark or Kenny. Anytime he talks about gay issues I cringe because he sounds terrible.
jesses_girl;290229 wrote:To do the challenges. Ok, well that makes sense i guess. Zack is ok, but I don't really like Ashley. I feel like she follows Zack around, it annoys me.
He answered that question in the podcast with Derrick and Ruthie at ultimatechallengeradio.com Also, they never said they weren't open to new things. If that were the case then they wouldn't hang out with each other much either lol. They met new people, they just didn't like some of the people they met. There's no problem with that. The Real World is a place to find new best friends. It's an experiment to show the lives of 7 strangers who have to live together. That's it. It's not in the contract to become bffs with all the roommates. That is real life, some people like you and some don't.
jesses_girl;290229 wrote:I would argue they could throw 7 darts at a map, go to those towns and find a random 18-24 year old in each, and get at least as good a show and likely better than they are getting now. It feels like they take 7 people who all want to be on the show just to be celebrities and distort and edit the show to try to show what 13-15 year olds who haven't seen but maybe 1 or 2 other seasons would find interesting. For instance, they have been doing the same old gay storylines forever. Why not throw in a religious zealot, a homeless person, someone who tried to commit suicide, someone who was actually at a school shooting, or the types of people who have more first-hand experience with the types of causes they address in token weak ways? It would be a far better "experiment" IMO.
He answered that question in the podcast with Derrick and Ruthie at ultimatechallengeradio.com Also, they never said they weren't open to new things. If that were the case then they wouldn't hang out with each other much either lol. They met new people, they just didn't like some of the people they met. There's no problem with that. The Real World isn't a place to find new best friends. It's an experiment to show the lives of 7 strangers who have to live together. That's it. It's not in the contract to become bffs with all the roommates. That is real life, some people like you and some don't.
FishHooks;290268 wrote:I agree. What they really need are people who can bring something new to the table or, at the very least, are engaging in some way. They have painted themselves in a corner by picking the same type of people over and over, that the pool of people may not be as vast with game changers as some of us would hope.
I would argue they could throw 7 darts at a map, go to those towns and find a random 18-24 year old in each, and get at least as good a show and likely better than they are getting now. It feels like they take 7 people who all want to be on the show just to be celebrities and distort and edit the show to try to show what 13-15 year olds who haven't seen but maybe 1 or 2 other seasons would find interesting. For instance, they have been doing the same old gay storylines forever. Why not throw in a religious zealot, a homeless person, someone who tried to commit suicide, someone who was actually at a school shooting, or the types of people who have more first-hand experience with the types of causes they address in token weak ways? It would be a far better "experiment" IMO.
jesses_girl;290229 wrote:Really, no one is expecting anyone to be best friends, but to open themselves up a bit. There's very little we, the viewers, know about these people. Most of them, Zach and Ashley in particular, seem one dimensional. I find it hard to believe that any of them are like that in real life. Ashley comes across as fake and a follower. Zach seems to be all over the place at times and often forms his beliefs based on the opinions of others. Alex is boring. Frank is a lot of things, etc... Had there been more serious discussions, not yelling matches, between the cast members, things could have been more entertaining. Too many walls were thrown up early on (thanks largely to Frank's actions) that no one was fully willing to tear them down.
He answered that question in the podcast with Derrick and Ruthie at ultimatechallengeradio.com Also, they never said they weren't open to new things. If that were the case then they wouldn't hang out with each other much either lol. They met new people, they just didn't like some of the people they met. There's no problem with that. The Real World isn't a place to find new best friends. It's an experiment to show the lives of 7 strangers who have to live together. That's it. It's not in the contract to become bffs with all the roommates. That is real life, some people like you and some don't.
jase1;290291 wrote:They did open themselves. They went to the drag show to support Sam, they went to support Alex and her band, they supported Nate's projects, and they showed support for Frank's relationship with Mike. I don't get what the problem is. When 2 people in a group start dating, of course they're going to want to break off from the pack a lot more. It's not uncommon.
Really, no one is expecting anyone to be best friends, but to open themselves up a bit. There's very little we, the viewers, know about these people. Most of them, Zach and Ashley in particular, seem one dimensional. I find it hard to believe that any of them are like that in real life. Ashley comes across as fake and a follower. Zach seems to be all over the place at times and often forms his beliefs based on the opinions of others. Alex is boring. Frank is a lot of things, etc... Had there been more serious discussions, not yelling matches, between the cast members, things could have been more entertaining. Too many walls were thrown up early on (thanks largely to Frank's actions) that no one was fully willing to tear them down.
jesses_girl;290293 wrote:Just because you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you have to shun those around you. In most group settings, they slowly, but surely went off somewhere else. Why bother to participate if you can't fully engage with the rest of group from the beginning to the end? Otherwise, Nate wouldn't have felt the way he did about Zach and Ashley (even though he wasn't fully upfront about it). The same can be said of the other cast members. Frank, as always, just made matters worse. They chose to alienate themselves when there was no reason why that was necessary in the first place. In my experience, it's normal for EVERYONE to a have fun, drink, whathaveu TOGETHER when in a group setting whether or not you have been dating someone for 1 day, 1 month, etc... so I don't get what the deal is with these two. Secondly, going to an event is not the same as sitting down one-on-one and getting to know that person. It appears they did more of the former than the latter which I believe has been the root cause of their problems.
They did open themselves. They went to the drag show to support Sam, they went to support Alex and her band, they supported Nate's projects, and they showed support for Frank's relationship with Mike. I don't get what the problem is. When 2 people in a group start dating, of course they're going to want to break off from the pack a lot more. It's not uncommon.
jase1;290307 wrote:Lol they don't have to hang out together all the time, that's not the point of the show. And the root of the problem is Frank making a big deal about it. The others didn't seem to care much until Frank would talk to them about it and tell them why it's such a big deal. That's the only reason it was brought up, because Frank wanted attention and Zach and Ashley weren't giving it to him. Also, I don't think any of us know the timeline of what happened so it's not fair to assume when they started "alienating" themselves.
Just because you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you have to shun those around you. In most group settings, they slowly, but surely went off somewhere else. Why bother to participate if you can't fully engage with the rest of group from the beginning to the end? Otherwise, Nate wouldn't have felt the way he did about Zach and Ashley (even though he wasn't fully upfront about it). The same can be said of the other cast members. Frank, as always, just made matters worse. They chose to alienate themselves when there was no reason why that was necessary in the first place. In my experience, it's normal for EVERYONE to a have fun, drink, whathaveu TOGETHER when in a group setting whether or not you have been dating someone for 1 day, 1 month, etc... so I don't get what the deal is with these two. Secondly, going to an event is not the same as sitting down one-on-one and getting to know that person. It appears they did more of the former than the latter which I believe has been the root cause of their problems.
jesses_girl;290313 wrote:*sing-song voice* I do...
Also, I don't think any of us know the timeline of what happened so it's not fair to assume when they started "alienating" themselves.
ballinbroken;290315 wrote:I think I'll take a pass on the podcast. You can't blame editing for everything that was said and/or done. Especially when the camera is pointing directly at someone and you see/hear exactly what they said. A lot of this is about trying to save face and make excuses. That has been and will always be how people handle situations like this when they're shown in a negative light.
You guys should definitely see Derrick's podcast with Ruthie, Zach and Ashley. It makes me support Ashley and Zach even more than before. They were saying how Frank was trying to stand up for everyone after they watched the early trailer because they were still in the house. And how all the supposed Gay bashing is taken out of context due to the editing. Also, Zach said he has been watching the challenges since he was in 7th grade. He mentioned the Duel 1 and some of the early cast members of the challenge like the Miz and Coral. Also, he said if he was on a challenge, he'd want to team up with CT, who he has always been a fan of, and try to go against the mob.
jesses_girl;290313 wrote:You're missing my point. No one said they have to hang out all the time together. It would have been more entertaining, IMO, had everyone interacted with each other more than they did. The show is about what happens when a group of strangers interact with each other for 3 months. When this doesn't happen often enough or when people are not fully engaged, things get boring really fast. RW-LV, for example, was entertaining in large part because Dustin had a secret going into the show and everyone (viewers) wanted to see how that was going to play out.
Lol they don't have to hang out together all the time, that's not the point of the show.
Gdsimmons;289915 wrote:Lol at them throwing Alex and her "singing" career in the last 3 minutes of the showI'm fine with that. She has a beautiful voice, so it is a good sell...
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