Okay first off I gotta say LOL @ Fresh Meat Earning their way on the show. They didn't earn a damn thing. And they NEVER deserved to be on this show.

I hate that AYTO are now being included. It's infair to all of The actual castmembers. Why didn't they go with Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar? Because they were boring? Well that right there is BS beacause they cast people who are Boring and/or Useless ALL THE TIME on these shows. Brandon/Jonna/Theresa/Leory//Jasmine..None of them are anymore interesting than Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar yet they're on every season. I don't buy that at all.

I don't see this show lasting much longer. BMP/MTV trying to appeal to casual viewer's who don't really give a damn about this show hasn't made this show any better. And from here on out I don't know how they're going to keep this show alive considering the audience now is so dumb they can't follow this show if it doesn't have some stupid theme attached to it. This show doesn't lend itself to specific themes like Survivior or Big Brother does. This show is at it's best when they have Formats that allow them to have a wide variety of castmembers to chose from(Battle of the Sexes, Gauntet 2 & 3,)

And I also think that they need to do something about the predictability of this show. I really feel like repetitition is one reason why this show is/has lost a lot of ground. I mean nowadays it's pretty much a given that Johnny Backpack is going to go to the end and win everytime. What the hell is the point of watching? What is there to care about when you already know the outcome of the season? A stupid theme and some Idiots from another show is not going to cover up the fact that this show is just plain predicable and there is no incentive to watch.

I'll post more of my thoughts.

MTV only puts the cast members who hook up/drink/get into fights. Jonna, Jasmine,and Theresa are not boring at all! They were the center of the drama in Rivals 1. Trey/Laura are boring picks that dont stand out. Eric and Sahar are also very unmemorable and cadual viewers will have no idea who they are but lots of casual viewers remember Camila, Cara Maria, Jasmine, C.T.,Diem,Bananas, Nia. Thats why they get cast over some of the less interesting RW cast members.

Yes They are. None of them have done anything that translated into entertaining or exciting TV. Same goes for Leroy and Brandon. NONE of them are interesting. So why do they keep coming back yet Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar get the shaft? And as far as people not being familiar with Eric/Sahar..Well who's fault is that? THEIRS!. They can easily go watch their season online. I'm pretty sure MTV.Com have it(If not I'm pretty sure it's available to watch elsewhere online).

So I still stand by that Boring Excuse Being BS.

I think you're blaming it too much on the people who watch the show, rather than the people who make the show that actually have a SAY in casting.

Nothing is really interesting about Jonna, Brandon, Leroy, or Theresa. I felt like Theresa tried too hard, as well as Jonna.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

There were so many rumors, who the hell knows? I think (maybe?) Ashley declined, changed her mind, then never got another call.

You guys all make great points as to why the show has gotten stale.

In my opinion the main factor is that they only do one show per year and that puts a limit on who they can cast. It also hasn't helped that they keep repeating formats that limit the pool they can pick from i.e Rivals and Exes. What they need to do is go back to the large team formats where they can easily cycle in newer players along with the fan favorite veterans.

This. I really think that that will help this show out more than anything at this point. Do a Big Team Challenge and  We would get a good number of New People but yet still keep those Popular Veterans on.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

There were so many rumors, who the hell knows? I think (maybe?) Ashley declined, changed her mind, then never got another call.

Okay first off I gotta say LOL @ Fresh Meat Earning their way on the show. They didn't earn a damn thing. And they NEVER deserved to be on this show.

I hate that AYTO are now being included. It's infair to all of The actual castmembers. Why didn't they go with Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar? Because they were boring? Well that right there is BS beacause they cast people who are Boring and/or Useless ALL THE TIME on these shows. Brandon/Jonna/Theresa/Leory//Jasmine..None of them are anymore interesting than Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar yet they're on every season. I don't buy that at all.

I don't see this show lasting much longer. BMP/MTV trying to appeal to casual viewer's who don't really give a damn about this show hasn't made this show any better. And from here on out I don't know how they're going to keep this show alive considering the audience now is so dumb they can't follow this show if it doesn't have some stupid theme attached to it. This show doesn't lend itself to specific themes like Survivior or Big Brother does. This show is at it's best when they have Formats that allow them to have a wide variety of castmembers to chose from(Battle of the Sexes, Gauntet 2 & 3,)

And I also think that they need to do something about the predictability of this show. I really feel like repetitition is one reason why this show is/has lost a lot of ground. I mean nowadays it's pretty much a given that Johnny Backpack is going to go to the end and win everytime. What the hell is the point of watching? What is there to care about when you already know the outcome of the season? A stupid theme and some Idiots from another show is not going to cover up the fact that this show is just plain predicable and there is no incentive to watch.

I'll post more of my thoughts.

MTV only puts the cast members who hook up/drink/get into fights. Jonna, Jasmine,and Theresa are not boring at all! They were the center of the drama in Rivals 1. Trey/Laura are boring picks that dont stand out. Eric and Sahar are also very unmemorable and cadual viewers will have no idea who they are but lots of casual viewers remember Camila, Cara Maria, Jasmine, C.T.,Diem,Bananas, Nia. Thats why they get cast over some of the less interesting RW cast members.

Yes They are. None of them have done anything that translated into entertaining or exciting TV. Same goes for Leroy and Brandon. NONE of them are interesting. So why do they keep coming back yet Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar get the shaft? And as far as people not being familiar with Eric/Sahar..Well who's fault is that? THEIRS!. They can easily go watch their season online. I'm pretty sure MTV.Com have it(If not I'm pretty sure it's available to watch elsewhere online).

So I still stand by that Boring Excuse Being BS.

You still didn't answer what on earth is entertaining about two people who hid in the shadows the whole season. How on earth can you find them who were pretty much background characters on the rw any more exciting then anyone you listed? Theresa Jonna and jasmine started drama many times which is far more then Eric & Sahar did.

Nothing is interesting about them. I never said they were. You're not getting my point here.

 Eric and Sahar ARE boring. I never said they were interesing. However There are several people on this show that are just as boring as they are(Such as the people Iisted) yet they get casted time and again.  Why do they keep getting cast but Eric/Sahar don't? What makes people Like Leroy/Brandon/Theresa/Jonna/Sarah(Brooklyn) more interesting that they keep getting put on yet Eric/Sahar can't get on once? Those people I listed are boring as shit and don't really do anything worth noting about so why are they cast but not Eric/Sahar?

And Plus there is a chance that Eric and Sahar might be entertaining. There are People who were boring on their RW or RR Season but ended up entertaining as hell on the challenges. Devyn and Katie come to mind.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

It sucks though. I really wanted to see Jenny on the Next Challenge. I also wanted to see Cory and Brian too.

But I too think that she'll become a regular. I see her being a funny version of Robin for some reason.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

It sucks though. I really wanted to see Jenny on the Next Challenge. I also wanted to see Cory and Brian too.

But I too think that she'll become a regular. I see her being a funny version of Robin for some reason.

It was a huge disappointment, but whatever. She'll definitely keep it real, even if her tits aren't.

Okay first off I gotta say LOL @ Fresh Meat Earning their way on the show. They didn't earn a damn thing. And they NEVER deserved to be on this show.

I hate that AYTO are now being included. It's infair to all of The actual castmembers. Why didn't they go with Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar? Because they were boring? Well that right there is BS beacause they cast people who are Boring and/or Useless ALL THE TIME on these shows. Brandon/Jonna/Theresa/Leory//Jasmine..None of them are anymore interesting than Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar yet they're on every season. I don't buy that at all.

I don't see this show lasting much longer. BMP/MTV trying to appeal to casual viewer's who don't really give a damn about this show hasn't made this show any better. And from here on out I don't know how they're going to keep this show alive considering the audience now is so dumb they can't follow this show if it doesn't have some stupid theme attached to it. This show doesn't lend itself to specific themes like Survivior or Big Brother does. This show is at it's best when they have Formats that allow them to have a wide variety of castmembers to chose from(Battle of the Sexes, Gauntet 2 & 3,)

And I also think that they need to do something about the predictability of this show. I really feel like repetitition is one reason why this show is/has lost a lot of ground. I mean nowadays it's pretty much a given that Johnny Backpack is going to go to the end and win everytime. What the hell is the point of watching? What is there to care about when you already know the outcome of the season? A stupid theme and some Idiots from another show is not going to cover up the fact that this show is just plain predicable and there is no incentive to watch.

I'll post more of my thoughts.

I agree. I'll give the show anywhere from 1-3 years before its done. They've effectively killed this show (and I suspect it was intentional).

You guys all make great points as to why the show has gotten stale.

In my opinion the main factor is that they only do one show per year and that puts a limit on who they can cast. It also hasn't helped that they keep repeating formats that limit the pool they can pick from i.e Rivals and Exes. What they need to do is go back to the large team formats where they can easily cycle in newer players along with the fan favorite veterans.

Those large team formats wouldn't work if they don't have a corny theme attached to , people feel attract to reliable social experiments over big teams (Rookies vs vets, Row vs w.e) going at it. It will fail in the rating department.

You guys all make great points as to why the show has gotten stale.

In my opinion the main factor is that they only do one show per year and that puts a limit on who they can cast. It also hasn't helped that they keep repeating formats that limit the pool they can pick from i.e Rivals and Exes. What they need to do is go back to the large team formats where they can easily cycle in newer players along with the fan favorite veterans.

Those large team formats wouldn't work if they don't have a corny theme attached to , people feel attract to reliable social experiments over big teams (Rookies vs vets, Row vs w.e) going at it. It will fail in the rating department.

I knew you'd saying something like that.  While it may be true, we're just going to end up with the same cast over and over again which imo is the cause for the show getting stale and ratings crashing.

Okay first off I gotta say LOL @ Fresh Meat Earning their way on the show. They didn't earn a damn thing. And they NEVER deserved to be on this show.

I hate that AYTO are now being included. It's infair to all of The actual castmembers. Why didn't they go with Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar? Because they were boring? Well that right there is BS beacause they cast people who are Boring and/or Useless ALL THE TIME on these shows. Brandon/Jonna/Theresa/Leory//Jasmine..None of them are anymore interesting than Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar yet they're on every season. I don't buy that at all.

I don't see this show lasting much longer. BMP/MTV trying to appeal to casual viewer's who don't really give a damn about this show hasn't made this show any better. And from here on out I don't know how they're going to keep this show alive considering the audience now is so dumb they can't follow this show if it doesn't have some stupid theme attached to it. This show doesn't lend itself to specific themes like Survivior or Big Brother does. This show is at it's best when they have Formats that allow them to have a wide variety of castmembers to chose from(Battle of the Sexes, Gauntet 2 & 3,)

And I also think that they need to do something about the predictability of this show. I really feel like repetitition is one reason why this show is/has lost a lot of ground. I mean nowadays it's pretty much a given that Johnny Backpack is going to go to the end and win everytime. What the hell is the point of watching? What is there to care about when you already know the outcome of the season? A stupid theme and some Idiots from another show is not going to cover up the fact that this show is just plain predicable and there is no incentive to watch.

I'll post more of my thoughts.

MTV only puts the cast members who hook up/drink/get into fights. Jonna, Jasmine,and Theresa are not boring at all! They were the center of the drama in Rivals 1. Trey/Laura are boring picks that dont stand out. Eric and Sahar are also very unmemorable and cadual viewers will have no idea who they are but lots of casual viewers remember Camila, Cara Maria, Jasmine, C.T.,Diem,Bananas, Nia. Thats why they get cast over some of the less interesting RW cast members.

Yes They are. None of them have done anything that translated into entertaining or exciting TV. Same goes for Leroy and Brandon. NONE of them are interesting. So why do they keep coming back yet Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar get the shaft? And as far as people not being familiar with Eric/Sahar..Well who's fault is that? THEIRS!. They can easily go watch their season online. I'm pretty sure MTV.Com have it(If not I'm pretty sure it's available to watch elsewhere online).

So I still stand by that Boring Excuse Being BS.

You still didn't answer what on earth is entertaining about two people who hid in the shadows the whole season. How on earth can you find them who were pretty much background characters on the rw any more exciting then anyone you listed? Theresa Jonna and jasmine started drama many times which is far more then Eric & Sahar did.

Nothing is interesting about them. I never said they were. You're not getting my point here.

Eric and Sahar ARE boring. I never said they were interesing. However There are several people on this show that are just as boring as they are(Such as the people Iisted) yet they get casted time and again. Why do they keep getting cast but Eric/Sahar don't? What makes people Like Leroy/Brandon/Theresa/Jonna/Sarah(Brooklyn) more interesting that they keep getting put on yet Eric/Sahar can't get on once? Those people I listed are boring as shit and don't really do anything worth noting about so why are they cast but not Eric/Sahar?

And Plus there is a chance that Eric and Sahar might be entertaining. There are People who were boring on their RW or RR Season but ended up entertaining as hell on the challenges. Devyn and Katie come to mind.

All of those people have a bigger fan base than Eric/Sahar their fan base is really low to non existence. When the rumors of them being on the next challenge and some of the fan pages on OG/Twitter start posting pictures of them for every comment of people that knew them, they were ten comments of asking who they were.

Jonna/Sarah/Leroy/Jasmine/Theresa/Brandon have done stuff to make production asked them back at some point while Trey/Laura never did anything other than she following him on both seasons and judging from twitter she was going to do the same this time around. plus they do have a bigger fan base than Laura/Trey.

Sarah- cocky personality the rub people off, She had a great rookie debut season, hookup and has become a fan favorite. Why cast her for exes 2? They wanted both her and Jordan to be on the challenge.

Leroy Successful rookie season and is a fan favorite. Why would they cast him for exes 2? For the reason above and well Nia have drama for potential unlike the other 4.

Theresa every season she have done, she have brought drama. Is it memorable ones? No but she always give storyline. Why she is over those 4 on exes 2, well her relationship with Wes is pretty dysfuctional ever since she tried to hookup with him and they wanted both for drama something the other 4 don't bring.

Jonna- hookup and have gained fans. Like Leroy/Sarah/Brandon production love her. Why would they cast her over exes 2? Well she had a real relationship and had a nasty break up with Zach they can be really dysfunctional. Fans actually know about their relationship while hardly anyone know who Sahar/Erick and Laura/Trey relationship was one of the downfall of st.thomas.

Jasmine have brought drama.

I think its totally understandable why MTV/BMP cast Are you the one couples over Trey/Laura/Sahar/Eric they were more entertaining and saw potential of them bringing more to the table than those 4 as a team dynamic/House dynamic. One of the AYTO people cast on the next challenge have more personality for a reality TV show than the Laura/Trey/Eric/Sahar combined.

Fresh Meat earned to be on the Challenge by what they experienced on their show. I didn't mean they earned their right onto FM.

Jenny also declined because she was trying to work on things between her and Brian.

I'm just saying, nobody knows whether Chicago will give off new castmembers for any Challenges in the future. They could be like Hollywood and D.C by giving out a few players, but no one really knows until the next season when Chicago is elligible to play.

Either way about AYTO, even if they're apart of the same network, people from RW, RR, and FM were always brought out to play. It no longer looks fair. Lets bring out people from other MTV shows and let them play on the Challenges.

Chicago will be represented next season if there is one. While I was helping identifying the cast, I was told 2 cast members reason to doing the show was to do challenges too. Yes, I am talking about Nicole and Jason.

Its not about being fair, everything involved with time. Road rules don't exist no more they need to cast people with fan bases and they went for it. It has been the challenges of MTV for a while without the Real World/Road Rules. That opens the door of seeing more people from other shows. I was more against the idea of fresh meat and Camila because nobody knew them. While are you the one will attract more people to watch the show since they actually have fan bases prior doing challenges.

Okay first off I gotta say LOL @ Fresh Meat Earning their way on the show. They didn't earn a damn thing. And they NEVER deserved to be on this show.

I hate that AYTO are now being included. It's infair to all of The actual castmembers. Why didn't they go with Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar? Because they were boring? Well that right there is BS beacause they cast people who are Boring and/or Useless ALL THE TIME on these shows. Brandon/Jonna/Theresa/Leory//Jasmine..None of them are anymore interesting than Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar yet they're on every season. I don't buy that at all.

I don't see this show lasting much longer. BMP/MTV trying to appeal to casual viewer's who don't really give a damn about this show hasn't made this show any better. And from here on out I don't know how they're going to keep this show alive considering the audience now is so dumb they can't follow this show if it doesn't have some stupid theme attached to it. This show doesn't lend itself to specific themes like Survivior or Big Brother does. This show is at it's best when they have Formats that allow them to have a wide variety of castmembers to chose from(Battle of the Sexes, Gauntet 2 & 3,)

And I also think that they need to do something about the predictability of this show. I really feel like repetitition is one reason why this show is/has lost a lot of ground. I mean nowadays it's pretty much a given that Johnny Backpack is going to go to the end and win everytime. What the hell is the point of watching? What is there to care about when you already know the outcome of the season? A stupid theme and some Idiots from another show is not going to cover up the fact that this show is just plain predicable and there is no incentive to watch.

I'll post more of my thoughts.

MTV only puts the cast members who hook up/drink/get into fights. Jonna, Jasmine,and Theresa are not boring at all! They were the center of the drama in Rivals 1. Trey/Laura are boring picks that dont stand out. Eric and Sahar are also very unmemorable and cadual viewers will have no idea who they are but lots of casual viewers remember Camila, Cara Maria, Jasmine, C.T.,Diem,Bananas, Nia. Thats why they get cast over some of the less interesting RW cast members.

Yes They are. None of them have done anything that translated into entertaining or exciting TV. Same goes for Leroy and Brandon. NONE of them are interesting. So why do they keep coming back yet Trey/Laura and Eric/Sahar get the shaft? And as far as people not being familiar with Eric/Sahar..Well who's fault is that? THEIRS!. They can easily go watch their season online. I'm pretty sure MTV.Com have it(If not I'm pretty sure it's available to watch elsewhere online).

So I still stand by that Boring Excuse Being BS.

You still didn't answer what on earth is entertaining about two people who hid in the shadows the whole season. How on earth can you find them who were pretty much background characters on the rw any more exciting then anyone you listed? Theresa Jonna and jasmine started drama many times which is far more then Eric & Sahar did.

Nothing is interesting about them. I never said they were. You're not getting my point here.

Eric and Sahar ARE boring. I never said they were interesing. However There are several people on this show that are just as boring as they are(Such as the people Iisted) yet they get casted time and again. Why do they keep getting cast but Eric/Sahar don't? What makes people Like Leroy/Brandon/Theresa/Jonna/Sarah(Brooklyn) more interesting that they keep getting put on yet Eric/Sahar can't get on once? Those people I listed are boring as shit and don't really do anything worth noting about so why are they cast but not Eric/Sahar?

And Plus there is a chance that Eric and Sahar might be entertaining. There are People who were boring on their RW or RR Season but ended up entertaining as hell on the challenges. Devyn and Katie come to mind.

All of those people have a bigger fan base than Eric/Sahar their fan base is really low to non existence. When the rumors of them being on the next challenge and some of the fan pages on OG/Twitter start posting pictures of them for every comment of people that knew them, they were ten comments of asking who they were.

Jonna/Sarah/Leroy/Jasmine/Theresa/Brandon have done stuff to make production asked them back at some point while Trey/Laura never did anything other than she following him on both seasons and judging from twitter she was going to do the same this time around. plus they do have a bigger fan base than Laura/Trey.

Sarah- cocky personality the rub people off, She had a great rookie debut season, hookup and has become a fan favorite. Why cast her for exes 2? They wanted both her and Jordan to be on the challenge.

Leroy Successful rookie season and is a fan favorite. Why would they cast him for exes 2? For the reason above and well Nia have drama for potential unlike the other 4.

Theresa every season she have done, she have brought drama. Is it memorable ones? No but she always give storyline. Why she is over those 4 on exes 2, well her relationship with Wes is pretty dysfuctional ever since she tried to hookup with him and they wanted both for drama something the other 4 don't bring.

Jonna- hookup and have gained fans. Like Leroy/Sarah/Brandon production love her. Why would they cast her over exes 2? Well she had a real relationship and had a nasty break up with Zach they can be really dysfunctional. Fans actually know about their relationship while hardly anyone know who Sahar/Erick and Laura/Trey relationship was one of the downfall of st.thomas.

Jasmine have brought drama.

I think its totally understandable why MTV/BMP cast Are you the one couples over Trey/Laura/Sahar/Eric they were more entertaining and saw potential of them bringing more to the table than those 4 as a team dynamic/House dynamic. One of the AYTO people cast on the next challenge have more personality for a reality TV show than the Laura/Trey/Eric/Sahar combined.

Well of course they're going to have bigger fanbases Than them. They've actually been on Challenges several times now and Eric and Sahar's RW season was back in 2010 and they never did a challenge. They can't expect people to remember them for so long. People have VERY quick to forget in this day and age.

But whatever. I just think they should've casted Eric/Sahar and Trey/Laura over these AYTO people.

Fresh Meat earned to be on the Challenge by what they experienced on their show. I didn't mean they earned their right onto FM.

Jenny also declined because she was trying to work on things between her and Brian.

I'm just saying, nobody knows whether Chicago will give off new castmembers for any Challenges in the future. They could be like Hollywood and D.C by giving out a few players, but no one really knows until the next season when Chicago is elligible to play.

Either way about AYTO, even if they're apart of the same network, people from RW, RR, and FM were always brought out to play. It no longer looks fair. Lets bring out people from other MTV shows and let them play on the Challenges.

Chicago will be represented next season if there is one. While I was helping identifying the cast, I was told 2 cast members reason to doing the show was to do challenges too. Yes, I am talking about Nicole and Jason.

Its not about being fair, everything involved with time. Road rules don't exist no more they need to cast people with fan bases and they went for it. It has been the challenges of MTV for a while without the Real World/Road Rules. That opens the door of seeing more people from other shows. I was more against the idea of fresh meat and Camila because nobody knew them. While are you the one will attract more people to watch the show since they actually have fan bases prior doing challenges.

Well it's not really about Evolving. It's probably going to be another stupid casting mistake that doesn't affect the show at all. I mean who's to say that once these AYTO people get eliminated people will stop watching?  How is that going to help at all?

And you say that they want people with Fanbases now? So they're really gonna just have the same cast over and over again? People from the RW who haven't done a challenge don't have fanbases and Old Vets are all but unknown for most casual viewers. So they're basically going to just go with all these regulars with some ******** from some other MTV shows sprinkeld in from here on out. I don't see how that helps this show and I don't see how this show can last that much longer with that strategy.  I'm beginning to think that They need to just Cancel this show . It's had a good run.

Why the hell are you so mad Eric & Sahar aren't there, they aren't exciting they are basically wallpaper and they never did anything on there rw season that was worth mentioning, you bring up Devyn being boring but she was only on the cast to fit the theme and then production loved her. Eric & Sahar don't fit themes, they kissed once they didnt even hook up so IMO they shouldn't be considered exes.

Tbh I want to see CJ and Landon again and Frank S should be regular, not retire after 3 seasons. :S

 Well of course they're going to have bigger fanbases Than them. They've actually been on Challenges several times now and Eric and Sahar's RW season was back in 2010 and they never did a challenge. They can't expect people to remember them for so long. People have VERY quick to forget in this day and age.

But whatever. I just think they should've casted Eric/Sahar and Trey/Laura over these AYTO people. 

Well, Eric/Sahar didn't do anything interesting on their real world season to be ask ever again and take to consideration unless they are need it for specific people to be on it. Even the cast members joke about Eric being a ghost while living with him . while Jonna/Jasmine were part of the main storyline from the mid point of real world Cancun, Preston got a lot of cera time/drama during his season, Leroy hookup/Had drama/Fan favorite , Theresa trying to hookup with the 2 top dogs on her challenge debut and Sarah had drama on her season. What did Eric/Sahar did ? Eric was non existence except the episode that he kissed her for 2 seconds and she was too until that/Pablo visiting for 20 minutes in one episode. While people like Joi/Eric/sahar never did anything to make production asked them back.

I get your point about are you the one, but looking at the options of Trey/Laura and Sahar /Eric, I understand why they went with them. Laura/Sahar compared to Brittany/Simone in the entertainment level for a reality show. Well, the are you the one girls are way way more entertaining than those girls and will cause way more drama/Storyline judging from their first shows. Plus their team dynamic looks way more interesting than Laura following Trey like a puppy and Sahar/Eric 2nd kiss. Brittany was obsessed with Adam and Simone/JJ will push each other buttons at some point.

To answer your other question real worlders do have a fan base, is it the same as the challenge? No but they do bring numbers and attract new viewers. They do have some kind of impact rating wise the same way AYTO is going to. Why go cast the boring people from old real worlds , while they can cast entertaining people from another rescent MTV show that will bring new viewers it will be MTV/BMP job to manatin those viewers if they get eliminated. It's not about having the same cast all over again, it's about having regulars and rookies that will continue do this show for a while so build them a rescent loyal fan base for them.  Old school people that have kids and are married are NOT BMP priority no more.

I think Chicago cast will definitely be on the challenges. MTV/BMP have been pretty rookie-friendly lately when it comes to the challenges, so I don't see that stopping now.

Why the hell are you so mad Eric & Sahar aren't there, they aren't exciting they are basically wallpaper and they never did anything on there rw season that was worth mentioning, you bring up Devyn being boring but she was only on the cast to fit the theme and then production loved her. Eric & Sahar don't fit themes, they kissed once they didnt even hook up so IMO they shouldn't be considered exes.

I'm not mad. I just don't like that people who have nothing to do with this franchise are getting on this show over actual castmembers. That's all.

There AYTO people better deliver. They better be Entertaining, Exciting, and Memorable. They gotta be the best thing to happen to this show in a long time. Because if they're not then I'm going to be really pissed off.(Well not pissed off but I won't be pleased).

Well they need to think of something or just pull the plug. Aneesa said she has one more left in her. CT wasn't gonna do Free Agents at first & I believe only did this upcoming one because of his partner. That leaves them with only corny Johnny...a lot of the rookies actually don't want to rely on the shows & either have retired, don't plan to do that many or weren't asked & have moved on . Lastly, of course the classic vets either have moved on or want to come back but both BMP/MTV are ******* stupid & feel that "casual viewers don't know them" and need to have a theme to follow because most people are on a 2nd grade attention span level.

Also, from what I remember a lot of people don't think the rookies who DO want to do a bunch of challenges can't carry the show. So it'll either be the rookies or the AYTO people...people will have to accept it I guess, even though its a shame how they just throw the classic vets who put this show on the map to the trash simply because they may be married or have kids, like that stopped Tonya, Katie, Beth, Darrell, Robin, Susie, Alton, etc. from showing out lol & then Brad/Tori's whole thing.

Now with the AYTO people, I feel like they can bring a different vibe to the show but at the same time it's just a show thats hot for the moment, "flash in the pan" -type thing just like Jersey Shore. I think it'll get one more season & then it's on the next "hot" show. What is BMP gonna do then?

Why the hell are you so mad Eric & Sahar aren't there, they aren't exciting they are basically wallpaper and they never did anything on there rw season that was worth mentioning, you bring up Devyn being boring but she was only on the cast to fit the theme and then production loved her. Eric & Sahar don't fit themes, they kissed once they didnt even hook up so IMO they shouldn't be considered exes.

I'm not mad. I just don't like that people who have nothing to do with this franchise are getting on this show over actual castmembers. That's all.

There AYTO people better deliver. They better be Entertaining, Exciting, and Memorable. They gotta be the best thing to happen to this show in a long time. Because if they're not then I'm going to be really pissed off.(Well not pissed off but I won't be pleased).

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

That what PinkRose said but she was wrong. She just didn't want to work with  Cory on somethin pertaining to being Exes. Ashley on the other hand may have backed out due to modeling.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

That what PinkRose said but she was wrong. She just didn't want to work with  Cory on somethin pertaining to being Exes. Ashley on the other hand may have backed out due to modeling.

mhmmmm no I wasn't :

Their contract ends in May a year after the reunion aired. She is open to do one not a battle of the exes with Cory atleast that's what she told me on June 27.

About Ashley Mitchell,  according to some cast members  from her season she didn't received a 2nd call.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

That what PinkRose said but she was wrong. She just didn't want to work with  Cory on somethin pertaining to being Exes. Ashley on the other hand may have backed out due to modeling.

mhmmmm no I wasn't :

Their contract ends in May a year after the reunion aired. She is open to do one not a battle of the exes with Cory atleast that's what she told me on June 27.

About Ashley Mitchell,  according to some cast members  from her season she didn't received a 2nd call.

Mmmmmmmm somebody bought receipts. I forget how many of those you save.....

the stories still don't add up to me but okay. 

Mmmmmmmm somebody bought receipts. I forget how many of those you save.....

the stories still don't add up to me but okay. 

Yo. Mr. Future Vevmo Competition Host. Cool it with the sass.

plus Jenny turned this season down to focus on modeling so I don't think she'll be on a season

Jenny said on youtube that she will definitely do a challenge, but she refused to do Exes because they wanted to pair her with Cory which she saw as disrepectful to her current relationship with Brian. I see her becoming a regular once she debuts.

I thought she declined because she didn't want to sign a contract and not model for a year, wait that might have been just Ashley M, my bad.

That what PinkRose said but she was wrong. She just didn't want to work with  Cory on somethin pertaining to being Exes. Ashley on the other hand may have backed out due to modeling.

mhmmmm no I wasn't :

Their contract ends in May a year after the reunion aired. She is open to do one not a battle of the exes with Cory atleast that's what she told me on June 27.

About Ashley Mitchell,  according to some cast members  from her season she didn't received a 2nd call.

Mmmmmmmm somebody bought receipts. I forget how many of those you save.....

the stories still don't add up to me but okay. 

They all talk more then twice so they are more interesting then Eric & Sahar.

Simply Talking doesn't make someone interesting.

What by chance makes Eric & Sahar interesting ?Most fans don't know them, a challenge fan page on instagram posted a picture of them for possible exes 2 and everyone there thought Eric was Nick brown and thought Sahar was a Sarah misspelled.

Well what the hell makes Leroy/Brandon/Theresa/Jonna Intersting? Those Four are no more interesting as they are. And people can easily look up Eric/Sahar's RW Season online and watch it. It's nobodies fault but the viewers if they don't know them.

it's Sahar's and Eric's own fault if nobody remembers them, just goes to show they're not interesting. if someone posted Ryan Leslie's picture on instagram with a bunch of other challengers/real worlders, no one would mistake him for someone else.

Jenny posted a video saying that she has a few projects in the works and she's trying to start school in January... so I honestly don't think she'll every do a challenge unless Brian wants to do one. But I guess it'll all depend on the filming dates.  I definitely don't see either of them as "regulars" though. 

Why the hell are you so mad Eric & Sahar aren't there, they aren't exciting they are basically wallpaper and they never did anything on there rw season that was worth mentioning, you bring up Devyn being boring but she was only on the cast to fit the theme and then production loved her. Eric & Sahar don't fit themes, they kissed once they didnt even hook up so IMO they shouldn't be considered exes.

I'm not mad. I just don't like that people who have nothing to do with this franchise are getting on this show over actual castmembers. That's all.

There AYTO people better deliver. They better be Entertaining, Exciting, and Memorable. They gotta be the best thing to happen to this show in a long time. Because if they're not then I'm going to be really pissed off.(Well not pissed off but I won't be pleased).

I'm not happy about them being there at all but having Eric & Sahar there would be pointless IMO because first of all they never even hooked up plus they are the most boring pair they could have picked. Darrell & Rachel and Trey & Laura should have been there instead

I would've been okay with Darrel/Rachel and Trey/Laura too. it didn't really even have to be Eric/Sahar. Just people that were acutally on The Real World/Road Rules.