Behind the Screen: The Duel 2: Ep. 1 - Discussion

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RW561015;59671 wrote:I just wanted to add my two cents in about this because I don't think some people understand what exactly it means and how it affects people. People aren't calling Issac blackface...

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The Duel 2: Ep. 1 - Discussion

Binary Solo ·
RW561015;59671 wrote:
I just wanted to add my two cents in about this because I don't think some people understand what exactly it means and how it affects people. People aren't calling Issac blackface, but saying he was in blackface - wearing dark makeup to imitate a black person. It's something that is offensive to some black people (and people of other races who understand and empathize with the plight of black people, not the people wearing blackface). Blackface is offensive to some people because often when people are in blackface, they are making a mockery of black people by using the worst stereotypes possible. There is a history of black people having a hard time getting acting jobs many decades ago, and they had to often take the parts that depicted them as nothing but idiots and buffoons just to get an acting job. It's a touchy subject because some people still believe those stereotypes as being the overall truth, and it falls into uneducated/unknowledgeable/supreme ideals. I've seen reports and pictures here and there of white guys in frats dressing up as jailbirds and wearing the actual color black body paint and all and acting like fools. It is offensive to a lot of people. I could tell Issac was being Flava Flav, so it didn't really bother me, though it was a little eye raising when I first saw the picture. I'm sure he meant nothing by it but was just getting into character. Flava Flav behaves quite ridiculously IMO, but it is him being himself and not a representation of black people overall or a general stereotype (though he for some people feeds into the negative view of blacks). I have noticed guys of different races have had the idea to be Flava Flav for Halloween or whatever, but they are clearly trying to be a certain person (Flav) instead of portraying what they think most black people are like.
Well said. I admit I don't know the whole history of "blackface" but when I first saw the pictures posted a while back, it reminded me of these pics I've been seeing pop up from college parties at an alarming frequency: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2005-11-29 – Yet another isolated incident: blackface at Stetson University Thank goodness I never went to a college party where that kind of crap goes on. But yes I agree that dressing up as a specific person is not the same as stereotyping an entire group of people or purposely using racist imagery.
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Binary Solo#302
RW561015;59671 wrote:
I just wanted to add my two cents in about this because I don't think some people understand what exactly it means and how it affects people. People aren't calling Issac blackface, but saying he was in blackface - wearing dark makeup to imitate a black person. It's something that is offensive to some black people (and people of other races who understand and empathize with the plight of black people, not the people wearing blackface). Blackface is offensive to some people because often when people are in blackface, they are making a mockery of black people by using the worst stereotypes possible. There is a history of black people having a hard time getting acting jobs many decades ago, and they had to often take the parts that depicted them as nothing but idiots and buffoons just to get an acting job. It's a touchy subject because some people still believe those stereotypes as being the overall truth, and it falls into uneducated/unknowledgeable/supreme ideals. I've seen reports and pictures here and there of white guys in frats dressing up as jailbirds and wearing the actual color black body paint and all and acting like fools. It is offensive to a lot of people. I could tell Issac was being Flava Flav, so it didn't really bother me, though it was a little eye raising when I first saw the picture. I'm sure he meant nothing by it but was just getting into character. Flava Flav behaves quite ridiculously IMO, but it is him being himself and not a representation of black people overall or a general stereotype (though he for some people feeds into the negative view of blacks). I have noticed guys of different races have had the idea to be Flava Flav for Halloween or whatever, but they are clearly trying to be a certain person (Flav) instead of portraying what they think most black people are like.
Well said. I admit I don't know the whole history of "blackface" but when I first saw the pictures posted a while back, it reminded me of these pics I've been seeing pop up from college parties at an alarming frequency: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2005-11-29 – Yet another isolated incident: blackface at Stetson University Thank goodness I never went to a college party where that kind of crap goes on. But yes I agree that dressing up as a specific person is not the same as stereotyping an entire group of people or purposely using racist imagery.
Cru Jones#303
Hey everyone, I'm new to Vevmo. Here goes my first post… 1. The rugby felt too short. I understand there’s a lot of ground to cover, but when there’s only one challenge per episode, I need it to last longer than five minutes. And when that challenge involves rugby, I want it to get the whole hour anyway, so five minutes felt like nothing at all. 2. Wow, that was a creepy shot of Robin smiling. How has no one mentioned that? 3. I think Ryan would be better off not being saved in this game. Though it guarantees he’ll go into the duel, it also allows him to pick his opponent. In this line-up of competitors, he’s almost guaranteed to go in anyway. 4. I want to see Eric in the Elevator duel. 5. I don’t understand the strategy behind Shauvon picking Aneesa for the duel. Aneesa doesn’t have a history of winning missions, so she’s not a proven threat there. She smokes and has asthma (citing Gauntlet 2, just assuming accuracy), and final missions tend to involve a lot of running, so she’s not a big threat there. The one area where Aneesa is a threat is in the duel itself (.750 average in the Duel 1), so what’s the logic and where’s the benefit?
RW561015#304
Binary Solo;59858 wrote:
Well said. I admit I don't know the whole history of "blackface" but when I first saw the pictures posted a while back, it reminded me of these pics I've been seeing pop up from college parties at an alarming frequency: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2005-11-29 – Yet another isolated incident: blackface at Stetson University Thank goodness I never went to a college party where that kind of crap goes on. But yes I agree that dressing up as a specific person is not the same as stereotyping an entire group of people or purposely using racist imagery.
Ugh, and Stetson was a college I was considering when I was in high school! I applied and got accepted but decided not to go there. I know this kind of stuff could happen anywhere, but it disappoints me that it happened at Stetson. Back to the challenge. Hello Cru Jones. It seemed Shauvon wanted to pick a vet because she was a newbie and wanted to shake things up and show the vets she's not scared of them. Anessa is also one of the vets who is outspoken and has an edge to her personality, so I think it makes her stand out. I don't necessarily think Shauvon was thinking about performing in the final mission.
RMD1#305
RW561015;60066 wrote:
Ugh, and Stetson was a college I was considering when I was in high school! I applied and got accepted but decided not to go there. I know this kind of stuff could happen anywhere, but it disappoints me that it happened at Stetson. Back to the challenge. Hello Cru Jones. It seemed Shauvon wanted to pick a vet because she was a newbie and wanted to shake things up and show the vets she's not scared of them. Anessa is also one of the vets who is outspoken and has an edge to her personality, so I think it makes her stand out. I don't necessarily think Shauvon was thinking about performing in the final mission.
Dumb *****!! Enough said
terryface200#306
awwww I wanted Katie to beat Jenn and Ruthie to stay also but Paula and Rachel will get what they deserved.
Shirlene#307
i'd like to watch it, but it doesn't work!! somebody help me pleaseee
Lotus#308
Are you from the states? if so just go to www.mtv.com

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