Behind the Screen: The Challenge: What Ifs

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What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2. I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged...

— GoldenRing

What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2. I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged...

— Chicken_breast

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The Challenge: What Ifs

GoldenRing ·

What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2? I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged.

Bananas would've been with Dunbar. That should give new schoolmen the majority vote on women's days.

Avery and Nia probably make the final and I'd assume Camila and Jemmeye would get the boot.

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GoldenRing#2732

What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2? I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged.

Bananas would've been with Dunbar. That should give new schoolmen the majority vote on women's days.

Avery and Nia probably make the final and I'd assume Camila and Jemmeye would get the boot.

Chicken_breast#2733

What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2? I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged.

Bananas would've been with Dunbar. That should give new schoolmen the majority vote on women's days.

Avery and Nia probably make the final and I'd assume Camila and Jemmeye would get the boot.

UGH production ruins everything. That would have been a better season imo 

AshtonMartin#2734

What if Avery/Nia and Dustin/Frank were duos for Rivals 2? I wonder who and how the cast would be rearranged.

That's how it came out for me.

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AshtonMartin#2735

What that Rivals 2 made me think of is,

If Nia is on RIvals 2 does Leroy still hook up with Jemmye and Theresa or is he drawn to Nia first lol

ibeedevinyo#2736

I feel like Frank/Dustin get thrown in every elimination like Cooke/Cara and I don't picture them working that well together due to the actual hatred they had at the time.

AshtonMartin#2737

I feel like Frank/Dustin get thrown in every elimination like Cooke/Cara and I don't picture them working that well together due to the actual hatred they had at the time.

I assumed they would be well covered bc Frank has people like Jonna, Zach, Cooke, Emily, and Diem who he seemed to be working with while Dustin has Trishelle, Leroy, Nany having his back so they wouldn't be an initial target. Very Kenny/Wes, hate each other but are protected enough to not get voted in

ibeedevinyo#2738

I feel like Frank/Dustin get thrown in every elimination like Cooke/Cara and I don't picture them working that well together due to the actual hatred they had at the time.

I assumed they would be well covered bc Frank has people like Jonna, Zach, Cooke, Emily, and Diem who he seemed to be working with while Dustin has Trishelle, Leroy, Nany having his back so they wouldn't be an initial target. Very Kenny/Wes, hate each other but are protected enough to not get voted in

Frank didn't meet Emily, Cooke, or Diem until he showed up for the challenge so he would only have Zach. A lot of vets hated him after watching his RW and BOTS. 

Dustin spoke on his next challenge after BOTS about how he felt like an outsider bc all the guys won't talk to him. Nany and Trishelle had no power in that game and Trishelle didn't vibe with Dustin. 

Still think they are thrown in every elim

Infernho#2739

What if:

Instead of Fresh Meat we had 4 additional seasons of Road Rules

Cast 1

  • Johnnie
  • Jesse
  • Eric
  • Linette
  • Aviv
  • Diem

    • Cast 2

  • Evan
  • Kenny
  • Ryan
  • Evelyn
  • Casey
  • Chanda

    • Cast 3

  • Noor
  • Pete
  • Brandon
  • Cara Maria
  • Theresa
  • Laurel

    • Cast 4

  • Vinny
  • Luke
  • Jeff
  • Sydney
  • Sandy
  • Carley

    • Who would hook up?

    Who would fight?

    Who would be the outcast?

    Which cast would be the most fun?

    Which cast would have the most drama?

    entrepreneur#2740

    What if:

    Instead of Fresh Meat we had 4 additional seasons of Road Rules

    Cast 1

  • Johnnie
  • Jesse
  • Eric
  • Linette
  • Aviv
  • Diem

    • Cast 2

  • Evan
  • Kenny
  • Ryan
  • Evelyn
  • Casey
  • Chanda

    • Cast 3

  • Noor
  • Pete
  • Brandon
  • Cara Maria
  • Theresa
  • Laurel

    • Cast 4

  • Vinny
  • Luke
  • Jeff
  • Sydney
  • Sandy
  • Carley

    • Who would hook up? Casey & Kenny on cast 2. Pete & Laurel on cast 3...

    Who would fight? Johnnie and Eric on cast 1. Evelyn vs Kenny & Evan on cast 2

    Who would be the outcast? Evelyn on cast 2. Johnnie or Eric on cast 1.

    Which cast would be the most fun? Probably cast 2.

    Which cast would have the most drama? Cast 2.

    MontanaGaveMeWine#2741

    My favorite what-if of all time is what if Cohutta won his key on the Island instead of Bananas.....

    entrepreneur#2742

    My favorite what-if of all time is what if Cohutta won his key on the Island instead of Bananas.....

    kenny Derrick Paula and Jenn/Robin win.... cohutta still loses with Ryan, and likely Evelyn 

    MontanaGaveMeWine#2743

    My favorite what-if of all time is what if Cohutta won his key on the Island instead of Bananas.....

    kenny Derrick Paula and Jenn/Robin win.... cohutta still loses with Ryan, and likely Evelyn 

    Right, but what I was getting at is Johnny would have to wait a while for his first win. We wouldn't have made it on the champs team on the Ruins for starters

    AshtonMartin#2744

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

    El Lobito#2745

    either Bloodlines - and have it be a Challenge versus Are You the One season (or even better if they waited one season more so they could get AYTO3 alumni), or even a Gauntlet 4. sample cast below

    or Rivals 3 - to keep Sarah R from getting screwed, to knock down one of Johnny's wins, and to save the theme for a better cast/season - because Rivals 1 and 2 were SO GOOD

    Season 27 - Gauntlet 4

    Vets

    Cara Maria, Camila, Nany, Aneesa, Kellyanne, Jenna, Theresa, Nia (initially cast on Bloodlines)

    Johnny B, Johnny R, Leroy, Cohutta, Abram, Trey, Darrell (accepted for Exes 2), Derek C (who was an alt for BL)

    Rookies (0 or 1 previous season)

    Tony, Cory, Dario, Layton, Anthony, Thomas, Adam Kuhn, Swift (accepted the call for Exes 2)

    Averey, Nicole Z, Christina, Shanley, Sylvia, Jess A, Brittany B, Ashley M

    El Lobito#2746

    **** it, and then here's what Season 28 could've been if it was Challenge versus AYTO

    Challengers

    Johnny B, Tony, Cory, Leroy, Wes, Thomas, Bruno

    Sarah R, Cara Maria, Ashley M, Averey, Kellyanne, Nany, Violetta

    AYTO Alumni

    Shanley, Amanda, Britni, Kiki, Jess, Jacy, Ellie

    Chuck, Devin, Hunter, Nelson, Layton, Dario, Adam K

    Tvandcoffee#2747

    Awww I really liked Jacy

    kvm1977#2748

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

    Exes 2 was going to be my first answer because that's when AYTO was introduced but AYTO probably should have just replaced RR/RW as a feeder show so Vendettas is my answer.  They added BB and started the mistake that was casting internationally.

    The Ruins would have been my answer to just based on the ramifications.  Tonya sadly shouldn't have been there.  Other unrelated events caused some people to distance themselves from the show.   I loved seeing Susie win but that season did a lot of harm. 

    CosmicDiva#2749

    I think there's an unspoken rule on the challenge where no season can ever get a 4th installment; trilogies are the limit. Would've liked gauntlet 4 and inferno 4.

    Instead of Rivals 4, they did Final Reckoning

    flyguy#2750

    The Island, that way Johnny wouldve been on The Challengers team and probably loses an elimination late in the game.

    AshtonMartin#2751

    I think there's an unspoken rule on the challenge where no season can ever get a 4th installment; trilogies are the limit. Would've liked gauntlet 4 and inferno 4.

    Instead of Rivals 4, they did Final Reckoning

    I think they should do what they did with BOTS 2012 (and horror reboots like Halloween and Scream) and just have the seasons called The Inferno or The Gauntlet

    kvm1977#2752

    I think there's an unspoken rule on the challenge where no season can ever get a 4th installment; trilogies are the limit. Would've liked gauntlet 4 and inferno 4.

    Instead of Rivals 4, they did Final Reckoning

    I think they should do what they did with BOTS 2012 (and horror reboots like Halloween and Scream) and just have the seasons called The Inferno or The Gauntlet

    It's what they should have done for All Stars.  AS-The Gauntlet. AS-The Inferno. AS-The Duel AS-Cutthroat AS-Rivals etc

    anon12423452355...#2753

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

    Double Agents. It was the beginning of the end.

    anon12423452355...#2754

    No matter how many times I see this thread my mind will go to "what if" Sydney and Road Rules was on Seasons 2.

    UKLover1#2755

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

    SLA, RoDs, and Double Agents were so bad I've practically almost erased all three from my memory. This could be recency bias, but I'd still pick 39, SLA second.

    Lady Says#2756

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

     Vendettas, was a big down turn for me

    El Scorcho#2757

    Not sure if it's been asked or even fits this thread but:

    What if you could erase one season from the challenges history as if it never happened what season would it be and why?

    It is a toss up between Bloodlines or Rivals III for me.

    Bloodlines- the format was dumb. Most of the bloodlines were less interesting than dry wall. They didn't have a mind of their own and just followed their bloodline or the vets and only like 2-3 even showed back up and didn't provide anything to the show. Also, I didn't like that people were eliminated due to their bloodline losing.

    Rivals III- this is honestly one of the if not the only season I cannot say a single good thing about. The cast was abysmal. For once, the veterans felt out of place. And I have no problem with a season having majority rookies, however, this one had an AWFUL rookie cast. The "fights" or arguments reminder me of stuff I remember seeing in the cafeteria in junior high school. I mean we literally had a guy body slam another guy because he called him a "b***h". It was absolute trash.

    Challenge 17#2758

    What if Nathan doesn't dq on world championship?

    Hauserman#2759

    What if Nathan doesn't dq on world championship?

    who is dat

    Challenge 17#2760

    What if Nathan doesn't dq on world championship?

    who is dat

    The gay guy from the challenge uk , came in like third? In the opening challenge. He was one of the rare gay men they cast that can win physical eliminations.

    derp1987#2761

    I think he would have done well and continued on with the show and been on 39.  it really sucks that dq happened. he was such a good presence on uk.

    What if Nathan doesn't dq on world championship?

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