Behind the Screen: The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

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LexBlair;368682 wrote:last I heard the sum varieswidelydepending on the individual. 7/8k to 20k is pretty realistic...

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V1man;368684 wrote:Back when I was involved in cast member contract negotiations, it was always BMP's position that they offered only two standard contract, one to veterans and another to rookies, no ...

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The Challenge: Rivals II - Discussion (Spoilers)

V1man ·
LexBlair;368682 wrote:
last I heard the sum varies widely depending on the individual....7/8k to 20k is pretty realistic..
Back when I was involved in cast member contract negotiations, it was always BMP's position that they offered only two standard contract, one to veterans and another to rookies, no exceptions. If opined regarding rumors that there were differences between the payments that some veterans received, and I was rather firmly informed that "there is only one standard contract for veterans." Believe what you will; oddly, it's one of the things I've heard the cast has, in the past, been told not to discuss.
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V1man#6002
LexBlair;368682 wrote:
last I heard the sum varies widely depending on the individual....7/8k to 20k is pretty realistic..
Back when I was involved in cast member contract negotiations, it was always BMP's position that they offered only two standard contract, one to veterans and another to rookies, no exceptions. If opined regarding rumors that there were differences between the payments that some veterans received, and I was rather firmly informed that "there is only one standard contract for veterans." Believe what you will; oddly, it's one of the things I've heard the cast has, in the past, been told not to discuss.
LexBlair#6003
V1man;368684 wrote:
Back when I was involved in cast member contract negotiations, it was always BMP's position that they offered only two standard contract, one to veterans and another to rookies, no exceptions. If opined regarding rumors that there were differences between the payments that some veterans received, and I was rather firmly informed that "there is only one standard contract for veterans." Believe what you will; oddly, it's one of the things I've heard the cast has, in the past, been told not to discuss.
the operative word(s)..
V1man#6004
LexBlair;368688 wrote:
the operative word(s)..
Absolutely, since I've not been involved in contract negotiations for a very long time, I wouldn't know their position today regarding cast commentary regarding production details. And on a completely unrelated note, I saw this tweet from Cooke this morning.
"Heather Cooke ‏@CookeMTV Unfortunately I am all the way in Manila.. So can't make it to the reunion."
RatedRudy#6005
V1man;368689 wrote:
Absolutely, since I've not been involved in contract negotiations for a very long time, I wouldn't know their position today regarding cast commentary regarding production details. And on a completely unrelated note, I saw this tweet from Cooke this morning.
O wow, that's a shock, can't remember the last time a finalist didn't appear, I think Cara just found out too since she tweeted about it . I always though they were contractually obligated or something to attend but I guess it's their choice if they want to or not. I guess we won't be hearing too much about the Diem and Cooke situation now :/, and if we do, it's probably going to be about stuff that we already know.
theman23#6006
cooke tryna go pro in soccer
AnneK#6007
RatedRudy;368717 wrote:
O wow, that's a shock, can't remember the last time a finalist didn't appear, I think Cara just found out too since she tweeted about it . I always though they were contractually obligated or something to attend but I guess it's their choice if they want to or not. I guess we won't be hearing too much about the Diem and Cooke situation now :/, and if we do, it's probably going to be about stuff that we already know.
I'm thinking it would have cost them a pretty penny to fly Cooke back and forth to the Phillipines. It is very odd that a finalist is not at the reunion, although Derrick wasn't at The Island reunion so it has been done in the past.
Imjustsayin#6008
does anybody know who Camila and Jemmye are talking about on twitter?? Camila tweeted something about people not knowing the true value of friendship to which Jemmye replied it us over them and **** them. Then Jemmye wrote something like she ****ed up over a flip phone, we need to get like her....? Someone said there were more tweets that Camila posted last night but she has since deleted them. CaraMaria posted a pic of her and Diem on instagram where people were also talking about the now deleted tweets. It makes me think something went down between Diem and Camila. Jemmye also wrote something like, its so sad when people talk about their ex, they need to move on...Anybody??
ClubSandwich#6009
Imjustsayin;368738 wrote:
does anybody know who Camila and Jemmye are talking about on twitter?? Camila tweeted something about people not knowing the true value of friendship to which Jemmye replied it us over them and **** them. Then Jemmye wrote something like she ****ed up over a flip phone, we need to get like her....? Someone said there were more tweets that Camila posted last night but she has since deleted them. CaraMaria posted a pic of her and Diem on instagram where people were also talking about the now deleted tweets. It makes me think something went down between Diem and Camila. Jemmye also wrote something like, its so sad when people talk about their ex, they need to move on...Anybody??
Probably a reference to John.
AwkwardPhase#6010
I was wondering that myself. Camila also tweeted something along the lines of "f*** b****** who choose boys over everything" but she deleted that one.
dagr317#6011
AnneK;368737 wrote:
I'm thinking it would have cost them a pretty penny to fly Cooke back and forth to the Phillipines. It is very odd that a finalist is not at the reunion, although Derrick wasn't at The Island reunion so it has been done in the past.
Derrick was there; he was sitting between Johnny and Kenny in the front row. He didn't have much to say but he was definitely there.
gamer73#6012
dagr317;368747 wrote:
Derrick was there; he was sitting between Johnny and Kenny in the front row. He didn't have much to say but he was definitely there.
He wasn't at The Ruins reunion.
Challenge 17#6013
Why the hell was Katie at the ruins reunion when she was out in episode 4
dagr317#6014
gamer73;368748 wrote:
He wasn't at The Ruins reunion.
No, but he was at the Island reunion, which is the one AnneK referenced in her post and what I was responding to. Maybe she meant the Ruins reunion but I just went by what was in her post.
V1man#6015
dagr317;368759 wrote:
No, but he was at the Island reunion, which is the one AnneK referenced in her post and what I was responding to. Maybe she meant the Ruins reunion but I just went by what was in her post.
Thrown mud usually sticks somewhere... Let's burn Anne at the stake, perhaps during one of the commercial breaks tonight?
dagr317#6016
V1man;368761 wrote:
Thrown mud usually sticks somewhere... Let's burn Anne at the stake, perhaps during one of the commercial breaks tonight?
I wasn't trying to be snarky, just responding to another poster who seemed to think that my reply was incorrect. I'm sorry if anyone was offended. I'll be leaving now.
V1man#6017
dagr317;368771 wrote:
I wasn't trying to be snarky, just responding to another poster who seemed to think that my reply was incorrect. I'm sorry if anyone was offended. I'll be leaving now.
I was being snarky...not you. People sometimes (myself included) take this stuff too seriously.
gamer73#6018
dagr317;368771 wrote:
I wasn't trying to be snarky, just responding to another poster who seemed to think that my reply was incorrect. I'm sorry if anyone was offended. I'll be leaving now.
I was correcting Anne's post, I didn't think your post was incorrect.
GDInstall#6019
I know this sentence has been used far too many times now, but in this case you simply just have to use it. Once again, molds13 absolutely killed it with the spoilers this season even though she wasnt interested in this season. Thanks again.
Nostalgic#6020
nmanderson;368680 wrote:
The sad part about Dunbar, aside from the Ev nonsense, is someone else could have competed if he had opted out. That's why throwing that first challenge is so disreputable.
Damn straight. Never did care for him anyway.
Nostalgic#6021
AwkwardPhase;368746 wrote:
I was wondering that myself. Camila also tweeted something along the lines of "f*** b****** who choose boys over everything" but she deleted that one.
Why would she delete that? Its not that bad.
Nostalgic#6022
dagr317;368747 wrote:
Derrick was there; he was sitting between Johnny and Kenny in the front row. He didn't have much to say but he was definitely there.
Well i guess that settles that.
Nostalgic#6023
GDInstall;369409 wrote:
I know this sentence has been used far too many times now, but in this case you simply just have to use it. Once again, molds13 absolutely killed it with the spoilers this season even though she wasnt interested in this season. Thanks again.
Molds was amazing. Especially her choice of gifs.
wutzrenzi#6024
The males obviously competed in the True Colors mission. In the midseason trailer we see Johnny and Frank chained together and running (I thought it would be in the finale) and did they ever show Johnny with the meds?
LexBlair#6025
Imjustsayin;368738 wrote:
does anybody know who Camila and Jemmye are talking about on twitter?? Camila tweeted something about people not knowing the true value of friendship to which Jemmye replied it us over them and **** them. Then Jemmye wrote something like she ****ed up over a flip phone, we need to get like her....? Someone said there were more tweets that Camila posted last night but she has since deleted them. CaraMaria posted a pic of her and Diem on instagram where people were also talking about the now deleted tweets. It makes me think something went down between Diem and Camila. Jemmye also wrote something like, its so sad when people talk about their ex, they need to move on...Anybody??
safe to say that Camila and Diem are perfectly fine :encouragement: these pics are from yesterday: 2898 2899
Demetri#6026
Good season but predictable final.
Nostalgic#6027
Agreed. And shame on MTV3 for still showing this. thirsty much?
AshtonMartin#6028

Rewatching and ugh this show used to serve.

Also when Frank and CT went at it I think CT switched up the homophobia act bc let that have been Dan R or Davis and CT would have punched them imo

kvm1977#6029

Rewatching and ugh this show used to serve.

Also when Frank and CT went at it I think CT switched up the homophobia act bc let that have been Dan R or Davis and CT would have punched them imo

Wasn't that after CT qualified for the final?  Or am I forgetting another fight. CT not punching Josh WOTW2 pretty much proves he just knew he couldn't hit anyone again.  I also don't think CT would punch Dan or he would have on I2.  

I know I'm in the minority but I hated Rivals 2.   CT/Wes/John/Frank didn't even really have competition to make a final.  The girl's side wasn't fun.  Best part of that season was Emily getting a win and Zach being DQd.  The rest is forgetable IMO

AshtonMartin#6030

Rewatching and ugh this show used to serve.

Also when Frank and CT went at it I think CT switched up the homophobia act bc let that have been Dan R or Davis and CT would have punched them imo

Wasn't that after CT qualified for the final?  Or am I forgetting another fight. CT not punching Josh WOTW2 pretty much proves he just knew he couldn't hit anyone again.  I also don't think CT would punch Dan or he would have on I2.  

I know I'm in the minority but I hated Rivals 2.   CT/Wes/John/Frank didn't even really have competition to make a final.  The girl's side wasn't fun.  Best part of that season was Emily getting a win and Zach being DQd.  The rest is forgetable IMO

I think it's shining due to the comparisson to the modern show. Like they're fighting, partying etc and i feel like i got more out of the 60 minute episode than you would in modern episodes

kvm1977#6031

Rewatching and ugh this show used to serve.

Also when Frank and CT went at it I think CT switched up the homophobia act bc let that have been Dan R or Davis and CT would have punched them imo

Wasn't that after CT qualified for the final?  Or am I forgetting another fight. CT not punching Josh WOTW2 pretty much proves he just knew he couldn't hit anyone again.  I also don't think CT would punch Dan or he would have on I2.  

I know I'm in the minority but I hated Rivals 2.   CT/Wes/John/Frank didn't even really have competition to make a final.  The girl's side wasn't fun.  Best part of that season was Emily getting a win and Zach being DQd.  The rest is forgetable IMO

I think it's shining due to the comparisson to the modern show. Like they're fighting, partying etc and i feel like i got more out of the 60 minute episode than you would in modern episodes

Gotcha--especailly the last part about 60 minute episodes

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