The Challenge: Rivals II - CT & Wes

townie;348875 wrote:
CT & Ty have butted heads a couple of times in the past so it was only inevitable that a physical altercation was going to happen between the two if they kept getting cast together. Ty likes to run his mouth. The fight with Frank started because Frank tried pulling the same crap with him that he pulled with Zach and Alton in the past. Get in somebody's face and play tough for the cameras because he knew neither one was going to do anything to him. Once CT started to get physical with Frank and push him around the kitchen like a crash test dummy, Frank wanted no part of him, just like when Wes got him worked up on Rivals 1 and then soon regretted it.

lol I cant wait to watch this, that would explain why frank is already talking crap about CT on twitter.

townie;348875 wrote:
CT & Ty have butted heads a couple of times in the past so it was only inevitable that a physical altercation was going to happen between the two if they kept getting cast together. Ty likes to run his mouth. The fight with Frank started because Frank tried pulling the same crap with him that he pulled with Zach and Alton in the past. Get in somebody's face and play tough for the cameras because he knew neither one was going to do anything to him. Once CT started to get physical with Frank and push him around the kitchen like a crash test dummy, Frank wanted no part of him, just like when Wes got him worked up on Rivals 1 and then soon regretted it.

Do you know how CT's relationship with Wes is now? Also did CT get in anymore arguments aside from what is shown in the trailer or are those the main ones? Thanks!

I'd say it's about what it was before, they're acquaintances from having done these shows together and are cordial with each other, but Wes is not a person CT would hang out with in real life & I can probably say the same thing about Wes' views on CT. Even on the shows where their "rivalry" stemmed from, Wes was one of the few people CT would talk to and hang out with in the house. Even after on Rivals before & after their little argument.

i'm interested to see if both of these guys will come in in superior physical condition after faltering in their respective final appearances

inferno;349116 wrote:
i'm interested to see if both of these guys will come in in superior physical condition after faltering in their respective final appearances

I think Wes is even slimmer than he was last time.

TheFeedMachi;349118 wrote:
I think Wes is even slimmer than he was last time.

Ya, a skinny Wes really isn't that good of a competitor. Last time he really "showed up" was on the first Rivals, I believe.

inferno;349116 wrote:
i'm interested to see if both of these guys will come in in superior physical condition after faltering in their respective final appearances

Judging by the trailer CT looks huge again. He was always in good shape, he looks like he has close to the size from the Duel 2 except with more definition not as bulky.

CT does not look anything like he did on Duel 2... on Duel 2 he was like 240 now he looks like 225... to me he looks like how he did on Gauntlet 3

I think Wes loss alot of weight to be better in endurance and stamina... But I would prefer Wes to be like how he was on The first Rivals or The Ruins where he was weighing like 185 lbs.

Exactly my thoughts... CT doesn't look any bigger than he did on Exes (perhaps even a bit smaller). Of course that's still bigger than most....

Also Wes could be slim but we don't know how much cardio he does.... Something that he could profit from greatly in the finals..

That's what I was saying on Duel 2 that was the biggest CT has ever been on these challenges he weighed 240 now he looks more muscular and defined just how he was on Gauntlet 3 he has to be like 225 now. Zach on the other hand is like 240-245 now.

townie;348875 wrote:
The fight with Frank started because Frank tried pulling the same crap with him that he pulled with Zach and Alton in the past. Get in somebody's face and play tough for the cameras because he knew neither one was going to do anything to him. Once CT started to get physical with Frank and push him around the kitchen like a crash test dummy, Frank wanted no part of him, just like when Wes got him worked up on Rivals 1 and then soon regretted it.

I agree, thats what Frank does, on the 1st night start an argument with the guy that will get you camera time, last season he started fighting with Wes out of no where, I guess he thinks it makes him look big and bad if he tries to "stand up" to the biggest vet, he also did it with Alton. I wonder if the cast knew the no fighting rule was looser this time or if CT just decided to go nuts on this one, he didnt even touch Wes on rivals 1, not even a shove but now for some reason he's going all nuts on these people, what happened to the calm CT lol As for CT/Wes' relationship I think they have always been drinking buddies, just like a few weeks ago in NY. Even on rivals 1, Wes said they got in their fight after they were getting drunk, which kinda makes Wes look so 2 faces, like clearly youre hanging out with this guy and you guys are rooming together but in the interviews hes saying CT is a lunatic and whatever else, just like JEK but JEK didnt seem like they were buddy buddy with him on the show. But off the show Wes said nice things about CT, while JEK still talked trash so I guess its just for show. lol I wonder if Wes will badmouth CT in his interviews

Man I wish Dustin would have been on this cast he would have got into alot of fights especially with Frank and maybe Zach. He's just quick to react when someone mess with him.

Blue123;349201 wrote:
I agree, thats what Frank does, on the 1st night start an argument with the guy that will get you camera time, last season he started fighting with Wes out of no where, I guess he thinks it makes him look big and bad if he tries to "stand up" to the biggest vet, he also did it with Alton. I wonder if the cast knew the no fighting rule was looser this time or if CT just decided to go nuts on this one, he didnt even touch Wes on rivals 1, not even a shove but now for some reason he's going all nuts on these people, what happened to the calm CT lol As for CT/Wes' relationship I think they have always been drinking buddies, just like a few weeks ago in NY. Even on rivals 1, Wes said they got in their fight after they were getting drunk, which kinda makes Wes look so 2 faces, like clearly youre hanging out with this guy and you guys are rooming together but in the interviews hes saying CT is a lunatic and whatever else, just like JEK but JEK didnt seem like they were buddy buddy with him on the show. But off the show Wes said nice things about CT, while JEK still talked trash so I guess its just for show. lol I wonder if Wes will badmouth CT in his interviews

well to address the fighting rule, jordan said on afterbuzz that when him and marlon were about to get into it in portland, producers told them that if both parties wanted to fight they wernt going to break it up and were going to let it happen, and due to rating not being great and the show nearing cancellation they might have told the whole cast this time around, hence why there seems to be a ton of violence and altercations this season

I like Ct, i dont care for Wes, i want CT to finally win one!

Fullback12;349180 wrote:
CT does not look anything like he did on Duel 2... on Duel 2 he was like 240 now he looks like 225... to me he looks like how he did on Gauntlet 3

Guess you didn't read the whole post I put just half.

Zach doesn't weigh no 250 pounds, he's a whole inch taller than Chris and they're built almost the same, Chris is probably built a little thicker if anything. Zach is 225 tops.

This team is my pre-season favorite matchup without a doubt!! I love how they are both public enemy #1 every time they enter a challenge, it suits them to be paired up

No one said Zach weighs 250... and No Zach does not weigh 225... CT weighs like 225 Zach weighs like 235-240. And no CT and Zach are not built the same Zach is bigger and taller.

Fullback12;349434 wrote:
No one said Zach weighs 250... and No Zach does not weigh 225... CT weighs like 225 Zach weighs like 235-240. And no CT and Zach are not built the same Zach is bigger and taller.

You always come off so defensive and stubborn in your replies lol. And I'm ssure townie would know since he knows CT personally.

So what you are saying is that townie knows that CT is the same size as Zach? Is that really what you are saying... And that reply wasn't really about CT it was more about Zach.

Annnnd there's that defensiveness again. All I'm saying is he probably knows more inside info on the cast members than the average viewers, and that he isn't basing his comments off what he sees on TV. I'm sure he knows what he is talking about more than you do, but i don't need to talk for him so ill let him explain himself to you himself if he wants to.

I'm not being "defensive"...But whatever

Fullback12;349445 wrote:
I'm not being "defensive"...But whatever

Fullback isn't being defensive at all. In fact, i think its quite the opposite. Everytime someone says that a person is bigger or stronger than CT, Townie gets all defensive. When i said that the MIZ was bigger than CT, townie had a hissy fit. I agree with Fullback, Zack looks bigger and taller, but I'm not saying anything about strength. Obviously I think CT is stronger, but you can't deny Zach's size.

THANK YOU, All I was saying is I still think CT is stronger but, physical size Zach is bigger and taller.

Nobody who currently does these shows or has ever done these shows is as physically strong as CT is. Ask any castmember.

NOBODY said anybody was stronger then CT... we just said that Zach is bigger and taller then CT damn.

nmulla;349449 wrote:
Fullback isn't being defensive at all. In fact, i think its quite the opposite. Everytime someone says that a person is bigger or stronger than CT, Townie gets all defensive. When i said that the MIZ was bigger than CT, townie had a hissy fit. I agree with Fullback, Zack looks bigger and taller, but I'm not saying anything about strength. Obviously I think CT is stronger, but you can't deny Zach's size.

Haha, where is this. Do you know how far back or what page its on?

townie;349462 wrote:
Nobody who currently does these shows or has ever done these shows is as physically strong as CT is. Ask any castmember.

Are you missing the point? They are not talking about physically strong, they are talking about who has a bigger frame.